+1 to all of the above !!!

 

Well Yes ... I sure have.

I remember when the first one of those rolled in to the showroom floors back in 1969 ... It was called a BOSS 302, adding to it the 351 Saleens, the recent GT 500(s) and ultimately the FORD GT.

 

If I manage things correctly I hope to have the best of both worlds. As a matter of fact, I almost do now. I am restoring a 70 Mach 1 with a 428CJ and 4-speed which is almost ready for paint and I also have a very low mileage black 99 Cobra (blksn8k). I would love to add a new 5.0L GT or maybe even a GT500, especially if the aluminum block rumors are true.

 

Back in the 60's it was feasible to offer maybe 5 different engines in a given car. With all of the EPA certification required today, it's just not practical to offer that many engine choices, especially in a relatively low-volume car like the Mustang. I really can't see them adding another engine choice. I think the Coyote will prove to be a very good compromise engine. At one end of the spectrum are guys like myself who would have preferred seeing a high output 3.5 EcoBoost as the GT's engine. At the other end are guys like yourself who want a big block V8. And let's face it, even if Ford did use the 6.2 in the Mustang, would you be satisfied with that or would you be asking for a 7.0+ liter? It's not possible to please everybody, but I think most Mustang buyers will be quite pleased with the Coyote if it lives up to the hype.

 

Depends I think, on how you make the case for profitability. In 2003, they offered no less than 4 different engine combos (V6 - GT - Mach1 - Terminator) all of which had to at some point be federally certified. The S-197 as well effectively had 4 deifferent engine combos with the Bullitt (even though it was only a minor tweak, it still had to go through the regular battery of tests due to its differing engine calibration and having essentially used a V8 in a V6 body).

The beauty of the S-197 is that its been largely paid for and it makes very low volume SEs profitable. It might not make sense to do a mainstream "big block" car, but there is plenty of room for an SE between the GT and GT500 if the demand is there.

 

I want an aluminum block that I can throw in my '06 with ease that sounds like a '69 Boss 429

 

OK, you make a good point. Ford HAS offered 4 engine choices at once in modern times. However, what is the likelihood that they would offer the presumably heavy 6.2 liter truck engine? Wouldn't it make more sense to offer a 3.5 liter EcoBoost? They are already using a V6 from the same family as the base engine. Alternately, they could offer a Coyote that's been bored and stroked to it's maximum if they wanted greater displacement.

Or heck, they could even decrease the bore and stroke of the Coyote and add twin-turbochargers. The rumor is that a twin turbo Coyote will eventually be the GT500 engine, so you could use a de-stroked version in a special edition Mustang that slots between the GT and GT500. Then you might have something that could nearly rival the V6 EcoBoost in fuel efficiency, make a hell of a lot of power, and still have that trademark V8 growl. It would be expensive, though.

I just can't see them taking an engine designed for heavy duty trucks and adapting it to the Mustang when there's so much they could do with the engines that already live in the Mustang.

 

You're correct

but it ain't a 6.2

 

A guy can dream can't he = AL/AL DOHC 4v VVT 7.8L 655hp N/A V10

I've got plenty of payments to make on the current car so I've got plenty of time to start my grassroots "We want a 6.2L Mach 1 by 2015" campaign and convince enough people they really want one too.

Speaking of which, much to my dismay, I saw a white on blue GT500 at the GM dealer the other day. I wonder if the owner traded it in on a new Camaro (sucker) or Corvette (sorta sucker unless it was a Z06)???? My buddy is looking for a GT500 and the one on that lot might be a pretty good deal

 

My guess is that the dealer bought the car at auction. If you have a carfax acct you could look it up.

IMO- history bears out that trading a Shelby Mustang is not wise. Imagine it is 45 years from now. Three cars are coming up for auction. One is the GT500 in question. The second is a Camaro SS. The third is a Corvette Z06. All have identical mileage and are in identical, all original condition. Guess which one sells for twice as much as the other two combined?

 

Why is everyone assuming that the new 6.2 SOHC V8 is so heavy? It has not even been released yet. And, if it ever reaches duty in a car it will be an aluminum block to be sure.

 

Because the only specs anyone has seen for the 6.2 state that it does have an iron block and there has been little to nothing said about any aluminum block versions. Does anyone know what kind of block the Don Bowles/Roush 777 drag car had?

 

Well there WAS supposed to be a 5.8 version of the BOSS engine line that was AL, but that got canned cause it was too big and heavy.

So I guess the 6.2 was going to be lighter eh?

 

i cant even begin to adress some of the comments in this thread about ford needing bigger engnies etc. Technolgy along with keeping the weight down and keeping motors smaller will further help making the car handle etc. Ford can do plently with 5 liters of displacement and dohc not to really need a bigger motor for the hp they want to keep the car at.

 

POWERHEADS in California has already marketed a 5.7 OHC V-8. Aluminum or iron there is no replacement for displacement. I do agree that weight can be an issue, it's just that it varies in sensitivity between different people.

I dont know what block Ford has used as the base for the 6.2 but I'm sure it could be bored and stroked (or destroked) just like everything else.

As you and I both know how GEARHEADS are the world over ... I'm sure we wouldn't be risking too much to gamble on how many of them will no doubt find their way between Mustang fenders.

 

+1 ...

 

Ford hasn't done too badly in the handling department with that big ol' lunk of a 5.4 under the hood of the Shelby. The '10 model has gotten some pretty good reviews, and I'm willing to bet the 6.2 in N/A trim is alot lighter.

As for the DOHC 5.0 and HP, yeah its great and the car will be fast, but I bet even with VVT its not going to feel like the rocket some people are hoping for. Frankly, to really get the most out of it, folks are gonna have to drive it like they stole it (Now if Ford ever pairs it with say a 7 speed DSG, lookout mama!).

On the other hand a larger displacement engine makes that performance more accessible since it will have more power under the curve (so to speak) and will be easier to drive.

In any event, I'm not trying to detract from the 5.0 GT, its going to be a stellar car (epsecially fitted with the track pack and brembo brake options), its just that some of us might want something a little different, especially after you've gotten a taste of 480 ft/lbs of awesome sauce and experienced what "effortless power" is really like (yeah, I'm looking at you NW Pennsylvania and not having to take my car out of 6th gear)

 

Almost 4000 lbs is not doing good in my book. Every driver worth a **** will tell u the car feels big and overweight.

 

It might feel big and overweight but a lot of us DONT CARE ... (LOL) ... this is simple; if you want the lighter car then buy the one with the smaller engine, but don't forego building the heavier car just because a few people dont want something they feel is "heavy" ... at least that's my point anyway.

 

+1 ...