5.0 Litre engine production to start
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I'm with you on the 4.6 and 5.0. Every time I drive my car I'm reminded that it's the fastest car I've ever had the pleasure of owning. If I can hold out for a used 5.0 though... that'd be nice in a few years.
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The 6.2 is no rumor; its soon to be available in the Raptor but won't likely go into the Mustang.
Ford has stated weight reduction is an important goal in every car they design moving forward.
I mean you don't want the Mustang creeping closer to the weight of the Camaro do you?
Ford has stated weight reduction is an important goal in every car they design moving forward.
I mean you don't want the Mustang creeping closer to the weight of the Camaro do you?
NOOOOOOO ... 5.0 is NOT enough ... although I agree the bigger bore is better.
#25
Maybe I will ... when they change the ugly new body style AND they offer a bigger motor (or at least a bigger bore motor). Ford should be able to do a 351 CID 2-V/3-V/4-V without any problems, especially if they drop the 4.0 V-6 in place of a 3.7 that gets 30 MPG+. This should give them plenty of CAFE room to play.
I do like the 5.4 but I hate having to buy a Shelby to get it. I wish they'd reconfigure the current 5.4 giving it the newer 5.0 (3.700) bore with less stroke. The torque would still be sufficient but the RPM(s) would turn up faster and the bigger bore would move more fuel volume. Sounds like a great idea to me.
It wouldn't surprise me if I did wind up with a GT-500 ragtop.
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Yeah, who wants a POS 400HP 5.0? They should really bring back the old 335HP 428 Cobra Jet, cause it has a bigger displacement and also bigger than what GM and MOPAR offers. Who cares if its heavier! I'd also like to see the Mustang get up to about 4500lbs. That means it'll weigh more than the Camaro and Challenger and thus be more car than them. The Mustang really needs more weight.
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Hey thanks for that update from the front lines.
Man, if someone is screwing around with machinery that is crazy. Either a psyco or has a vendetta with co-workers. Not good.
You'll have to let everyone there know how excited we are about the engines and how sales should shoot up due to these engines as alot of guys have been holding off until they hit the dealers lots.
It would be great if you could give us some updates every now & then as things move forward
Man, if someone is screwing around with machinery that is crazy. Either a psyco or has a vendetta with co-workers. Not good.
You'll have to let everyone there know how excited we are about the engines and how sales should shoot up due to these engines as alot of guys have been holding off until they hit the dealers lots.
It would be great if you could give us some updates every now & then as things move forward
I'm not exactly on the front lines, i'm actually in Australia, so pretty far from any lines
But I am pretty close to Ford Australia
Will be happy to let you all know how things are going if I come across anything.
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Yeah, who wants a POS 400HP 5.0? They should really bring back the old 335HP 428 Cobra Jet, cause it has a bigger displacement and also bigger than what GM and MOPAR offers. Who cares if its heavier! I'd also like to see the Mustang get up to about 4500lbs. That means it'll weigh more than the Camaro and Challenger and thus be more car than them. The Mustang really needs more weight.
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Yeah, who wants a POS 400HP 5.0? They should really bring back the old 335HP 428 Cobra Jet, cause it has a bigger displacement and also bigger than what GM and MOPAR offers. Who cares if its heavier! I'd also like to see the Mustang get up to about 4500lbs. That means it'll weigh more than the Camaro and Challenger and thus be more car than them. The Mustang really needs more weight.
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One item which has been proven time and time again by Ford is with the introduction of new products there are unforeseen problems which develop and the excited public winds up paying the price and dealing with the inconveniences. Considering Ford's past history with the Mustang and for all the nostalgia of the legendary 5.0 I would not buy a Mustang with the new 5.0 version until it is proven under average use and conditions, at least not for the first year. Now, I don't claim it will happen, hopefully it will not, but the probability is there.
Having been a ginnie pig for Ford a few times and the experience of dealing with dealers to correct my so called imaginary issues, the back and forth, and most important, the loss of excitement for the new car not even taking its cost into account, is something I can do without.
Having been a ginnie pig for Ford a few times and the experience of dealing with dealers to correct my so called imaginary issues, the back and forth, and most important, the loss of excitement for the new car not even taking its cost into account, is something I can do without.
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Having been a ginnie pig for Ford a few times and the experience of dealing with dealers to correct my so called imaginary issues, the back and forth, and most important, the loss of excitement for the new car not even taking its cost into account, is something I can do without.
Lemons happen.
TR3650's also happen and those weren't even new. The 3v 4.6 has had problems for people on their 05-10's... and those are pretty old in general terms.
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Trust me, those guys (and gals) are working days, nights, weekends, and holidays to make sure this puppy is darn near perfect. I have always been a skeptic "wait and see" person like yourself regarding new models, but I have no problem putting down the money on this one.
Before I get bashed, please note that I said near perfect... I am a realist, too.
Before I get bashed, please note that I said near perfect... I am a realist, too.
#35
Weight doesn't bother me too much. IMO we should have the same if not more CID than GM and/or MOPAR offers. If doing so approaches the same weight; no problem. I'm sure the FORD would still give them a run for their money.
NOOOOOOO ... 5.0 is NOT enough ... although I agree the bigger bore is better.
NOOOOOOO ... 5.0 is NOT enough ... although I agree the bigger bore is better.
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- Handling
- Braking
- Economy/efficiency
- Emissions
I think Ford's approach is better and generally bearing fruit and is better situated for future development than its fast but fat competitors.
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B) Ford GT500 5.4 (S/C 4v DOHC 5.4L 540hp V8) 6000 rpm redline
Lol, just say'n
Personally I'll take that 6.2, confingured properly it will spin to 7 grand and in the realm of street engines even a well developed 2 valver has more than enough airflow to make stoopid crazy power. Honestly if the 5.0 delivers even at 390 or better HP (400+ hype) it will be one of Ford's great engines. However, I can think on more than few good reasons why a lower reving bigger displacement V8 wouldn't be such a bad idea.
Last edited by bob; 12/12/09 at 12:45 PM.
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I wasn't addressing Rhumb, just poking fun at VAin's remark. Neither approach is right or wrong or better or worse (again pointing to GM, thier 2v OHV engines do get alot of respect).
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Exactly, I'd rather Ford NOT take a broad axe approach to performance. Acceleration is a product of mass vs power and can be addressed from either end of the equation. While simply stuffing ever bigger motors into ever heavier cars can eventually get the same acceleration level, it is not without significant costs and detriment to many other areas:
I think Ford's approach is better and generally bearing fruit and is better situated for future development than its fast but fat competitors.
- Handling
- Braking
- Economy/efficiency
- Emissions
I think Ford's approach is better and generally bearing fruit and is better situated for future development than its fast but fat competitors.
Taking a jab at 428CJ cars is cheap; if folks today could get a 428 CID engine in a Mustang at an affordable price they'd be all over it.
If you're worried about fuel economy and emissions then buy a Volkswagen or something along those lines. I can never understand why folks consider fuel economy when buying a Mustang ... They've never been economical if they've had any kind of 60(s) era performance; not even the V-8 Mustang II(s).
If you want a performer with 60(s)-era muscle then that is what you need to buy. If you want something else I suggest looking beyond the Mustang. It's really hard to have it all and/or a little bit of all the best in one car that is at least affordable for most of us.