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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 12:50 PM
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I'd say the late 6.2 V8 AMG models were sure as hell German muscle cars...
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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Munk
By that logic.. anything with over 420+hp is considered a muscle car? I just don't see it...

nah, simply saying specifically as to the present mustang is and is perceived as a muscle car
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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 01:49 PM
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nah, simply saying specifically as to the present mustang is and is perceived as a muscle car
Maybe the GT500, but definitely not the GT or V6.
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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 02:00 PM
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Id agree the gt500 ican be considered muscle but Americas true pony car sure is going the sports car route if you ask me
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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Munk
By that logic.. anything with over 420+hp is considered a muscle car? I just don't see it...

to mind. My Mechanic Drag races a Comet Wagon.

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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 02:44 PM
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Muscle cars will always be considered the cars of the 60's and 70's. Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, are the pony cars. Remember the muscle cars were actually the bigger cars. Roadrunners, Chevelle, Galaxy etc. The Shelby and the Vette are kinda classified as brand flagships. High end domestics. I really hate to agree but that AMG Mercedes and maybe the charger might classify as muscle cars more than a mustang. Although most of the original muscle cars were two door models.
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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang
you know the mustang isn't a muscle car right? pony car...

it looks the way it does because its now a global car and they are trying o make everyone happy around the world.. Not sure it will work but its better then those awful photo shop jobs we have been fighting over for 6 months.
I think I just said that? Only with more words.
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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
Muscle cars will always be considered the cars of the 60's and 70's. Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, are the pony cars. Remember the muscle cars were actually the bigger cars. Roadrunners, Chevelle, Galaxy etc. The Shelby and the Vette are kinda classified as brand flagships. High end domestics. I really hate to agree but that AMG Mercedes and maybe the charger might classify as muscle cars more than a mustang. Although most of the original muscle cars were two door models.

And correct. And the late 50's Galaxy and other big cars from that time where called Muscle cars. They were BIG BLOCK Engine. Mustang started the pony car era and a whole new mentality that SMALL Block V8's could be just as Lethal.
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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 03:01 PM
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And correct. And the late 50's Galaxy and other big cars from that time where called Muscle cars. They were BIG BLOCK Engine. Mustang started the pony car era and a whole new mentality that SMALL Block V8's could be just as Lethal.
I'm just not really sure what to call the 71-73 mustang though. It was for sure no pony. I guess 71-78 we can just call Ford Mistakes. Even though I secretly have some love for the mustang II.
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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
I'm just not really sure what to call the 71-73 mustang though. It was for sure no pony. I guess 71-78 we can just call Ford Mistakes. Even though I secretly have some love for the mustang II.
I don't think the mustang II was that bad looking. My father and grandfather had one. It was just sooooo slow. It was bulletproof though. One of my sisters put one through a cinder block wall and barely scratched the car.
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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
Muscle cars will always be considered the cars of the 60's and 70's. Camaro, Mustang, Challenger, are the pony cars. Remember the muscle cars were actually the bigger cars. Roadrunners, Chevelle, Galaxy etc. The Shelby and the Vette are kinda classified as brand flagships. High end domestics. I really hate to agree but that AMG Mercedes and maybe the charger might classify as muscle cars more than a mustang. Although most of the original muscle cars were two door models.
It just appears to me the Mustang is now moving towards becoming more of a sports car than the pony car that it was originally intended for..

On the other hand, I understand why as Ford is now targeting a global market along with hopefully attracting a new generation of Mustang enthusiasts for the next 50+ years..

Some of us old farts may not like it, but it is what it is
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 06:33 AM
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I don't think the mustang II was that bad looking. My father and grandfather had one. It was just sooooo slow. It was bulletproof though. One of my sisters put one through a cinder block wall and barely scratched the car.
There have been a lot of mixed feelings about the Mustang II. Some people really like them. I think for the most part they were a victim of the Oil crunch and Smog era that really just made a lot of cars lack something. I don't think they looked bad H@&& they look more like a Mustang than some other generations.
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by laserred38
I'd say the late 6.2 V8 AMG models were sure as hell German muscle cars...
I was referring specifically to the wagon, but i see your point the c63 black is a hell of a car
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 08:49 PM
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I like how when they show it...that it is a red car...all cars should be red....
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 08:51 PM
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I like how when they show it...that it is a red car...all cars should be red....
X1000!!!
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by laserred38
I'd say the late 6.2 V8 AMG models were sure as hell German muscle cars...
I almost bought the new 2014 C63 AMG 507....507 HP..very fast
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Munk
By that logic.. anything with over 420+hp is considered a muscle car? I just don't see it...

Darn I wish I could afford one of those for an everyday driver.
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
I'm just not really sure what to call the 71-73 mustang though. It was for sure no pony.

The slightly smaller than S-197 and S550 Mustang.


true story.
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bob
The slightly smaller than S-197 and S550 Mustang.


true story.
Actually ! it's the other way around Bob.. The S-197 is approx 1.5" shorter in length than the 71-73 Mustangs and the S550 is approx 3.5" shorter as the 71-73 models were the largest production Mustangs in the car's entire 50 year history..
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 03:50 AM
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I don't regret getting a 14 but I'm looking forward to an Ecoboost '17 or '18 in my future!

The new car reminds me a little of my old 65 fastback. I love it!

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