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Old 4/21/11, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TTS197
That article is from last year and dated. I could see a 2014 if there isn't a 2013 refresh. Based on the Taurus new and the 2013 Gt500 I highly doubt it. 2015 will be the new model.
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Originally Posted by LagunaBeach
So let's see. According to the article the all new Mustang will be a 2014, but then J Mays says he still has two years to pick a design. Using the current availability of Mustangs it looks like this.

April '11 - 2012's available
April '12 - 2013
April '13 - 2014's available

Two years to pick a design puts us smack dab into April of 2013, the exact same time the 2014 should go on sale? Anyone see a problem with this logic?

And Ford would really do a rumored refresh for '13 for just one model year?
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Old 4/21/11, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Itravelalot
I have said it before and will say it again. Putting off the 50th until 2015 MY will only mean a years worth of lost sales, if Ford can make the next Mustang appeal to more buyers than the current design. I love this current design and it is the best out there, but a fresh new very well done design could mean more sales. Ford is losing sales because the styling on the mustang is too similar to what we have had since 2005.
It isn't going to matter one bit. Ford will gain the sales back in 2015. Ford isn't losing sales to the new design that looks too much like the 2005. The new design is vastly different. Ford is losing sales just like it did in the late 60's to competition. There are 3 pony cars out now when in 2005 there was only one.
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Old 4/22/11, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 94gt
It isn't going to matter one bit. Ford will gain the sales back in 2015. Ford isn't losing sales to the new design that looks too much like the 2005. The new design is vastly different. Ford is losing sales just like it did in the late 60's to competition. There are 3 pony cars out now when in 2005 there was only one.

I would not say that the current gen car is "vastly" different from the 2005-09 car. For us Mustang fanatics, sure it's different but to the average person it really isn't that different looking. Heck I usually can't spot the difference on the road until they are close by or I see the rear of the car. Personally I think the biggest difference in the 2010-up Mustang is in the interior.

As far as 2013 having a one year refresh, I don't think it is as surprising as one would think. Look at the 2010 Mustang for example all three models V6, GT, GT500 have one year engines with unique parts to that year. Things like the exhaust, interior speedo, rear spoiler are all specific to the 2010. I'm not sure on this one but I have even heard that the front bumper of the 2011 is slightly different... This is for a very limited one year run, I think less that 50,000 2010 Mustangs were produced. I'm not saying that you are wrong on the 2015 thing but just saying that 2013 could like 2010 be a one year refresh.
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Old 4/22/11, 09:28 AM
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i am hoping our insiders will have more clarity come late summer/fall (hopefully they will share it as well!)

as noted above significant processes would have to be in motion for a MY2014 all new launch in spring 2013 if that is the case. ford would be only 18 months away from publishing the order guide. seems like a really squeezed timetable for an all new vehicle that they are still doing design studies on. My opinion is that when you see 2014 being referred in articles to they are not speaking in model years they are referring to calendar years
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All Ford would have to do for model year 2013 is to put larger fender flares on the rear fenders and stick some wide tires on the back and the Mustang would look more agressive and quite different. Up front, they could change the grill. The Mustang would almost look like a whole new car. Finally, the Mustang would have rear tires to allow the back end to get some good grip for better acceleration.
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Old 4/23/11, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 94gt
That article is from last year and dated. I could see a 2014 if there isn't a 2013 refresh. Based on the Taurus new and the 2013 Gt500 I highly doubt it. 2015 will be the new model.
From all 3 articles.
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Originally Posted by Topnotch
http://www.autonews.com/article/2011...110429988/1503

Also spoke with Mays and Callum...2014 is the model year....don't look for a concept before hand...MY Touch and some tweaks next year in current car plus another SE (besides Boss)...Shelby (The company) also launches GTS Versions for V6 and V8...The 2014 Mustang will not disappoint.

I'm surprised nobody is jumping up and down on this one! Another SE? A Bullitt would be relatively easy.....but we've been there. Mach 1? SVT Cobra?

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Old 4/24/11, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by TTS197
From all 3 articles.
Yes the initial article in the thread states they have 2 years from now to finish the design. There is no way possible then they can have a completed car on dealer lots at the same time the design is being finalized. He is referring to a 2015 Mustang being on dealer lots in the spring of 2014.
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My thoughts on the article

"Mays said he still has about two years to accept or reject his designers' various ideas for the 2014 Mustang before deciding on a final design."

My thought on this is if this was the case, we wouldn't be seeing this car till at least MY16....which does not make sense to me. I have a feeling the writer misunderstood what he was saying because the FIRST two things they secure for a car program is the chassis and the design of a car. The reason for that is simple in that it takes time to make sure they both fit together like pieces to a puzzle during its development.


Now if the writer meant to make small tweaks to the final design in that two year period then yes thats entirely possible but whatever the case I can assure you the final design is locked and loaded already
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Old 4/24/11, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Twin Turbo
I'm surprised nobody is jumping up and down on this one! Another SE? A Bullitt would be relatively easy.....but we've been there. Mach 1? SVT Cobra?

Right there with ya! The new SE I'm greatly interested in. Mach1? Bullitt? Both (dare I dream?)I needs to know!!

As for when the next one comes out, I'm of the opinion that it'll be out for the 2014 MY. The 2009 was the 45th, so I'm confident on that alone that the 50th will be 2014 MY.

And I have a feeling it's designed already and everything is now just being finalized. There's a lot of people who have to sign off on everything and that's what is going to take the most time. I don't think I've ever heard of a car go from concept-to-showroom in under 5 years.

Heck, even the 2010 refresh was completed back in 08 and that was a "minor" update in the grand scheme of things.
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Originally Posted by Rjaniz
Right there with ya! The new SE I'm greatly interested in. Mach1? Bullitt? Both (dare I dream?)I needs to know!!

As for when the next one comes out, I'm of the opinion that it'll be out for the 2014 MY. The 2009 was the 45th, so I'm confident on that alone that the 50th will be 2014 MY.

And I have a feeling it's designed already and everything is now just being finalized. There's a lot of people who have to sign off on everything and that's what is going to take the most time. I don't think I've ever heard of a car go from concept-to-showroom in under 5 years.

Heck, even the 2010 refresh was completed back in 08 and that was a "minor" update in the grand scheme of things.
This other SE may just be the anniversary edition. Kinda a big suprise if we have GT500/Boss/GT and another exclusive SE but pretty awesome if we do get one my vote is for another mach1!
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Old 4/24/11, 07:16 PM
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I would love to see a Mach 1. A non supercharged 5.8 would be the perfect fit.
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I'm thinking some sort of EBed special edition to gauge interest in a turbo Mustang for the next gen. Could be a EB 4 with moderate power but set up for balance and handling that would help the decision for the next base engine, or the EB 6 to see if it could take over some V8 sales.
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Old 4/25/11, 08:52 AM
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i hope an SE MACH1 or something would put the Boss motor into a std GT and be available with all the regular GT trim just not the boss upgraded suspension. i would buy one of those.
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I like the sound of that.......not sure the Boss purists would be too happy abount their gem of an engine being used elsewhere.

Or, if the 5.8 (351) GT500 motor is true, how about a n/a version? What sort of power do you think that'd put out? No point if it's too close to the Coyote....but the badge would be nice

Other easy SEs......Twister (GO is due back, is it not?)......or just the Grabber SEs (pretty rare back in the day).
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Sounds like that would make for a nice new Bullett model, i.e., most of the Boss mechanical bits, if perhaps tuned a bit more for street rather than track performance, in a more toned down and refined stylistic package -- less colorful clown suit and more dark turtleneck and khakis, something befitting of Steve McQueen himself. I'd love something with the Boss's firepower but without the circus-come-to-town graphics.
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i dont mind the boss graphics but i am more interested optioning up over the bare bones boss interior. i think a modern mach 1 minus the useless shaker could fill that role nicely. Boss engine with the upgraded interior and the brembo suspension, not the Boss suspension. based on what we know i wouldnt be that interested in a N/A 5.8, with forced induction those engines can make some power but on their own the mods struggle (i am talking factory warranty power) but maybe a 5.8 would feature enough rework to overcome some of the limitations. i thought a version the Boss 5.0 would make more sense because so they could amortize more of the engine development costs.
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Originally Posted by 94gt
I would love to see a Mach 1. A non supercharged 5.8 would be the perfect fit.
A Mach 1 would of been cool a few years ago. I hate it when they release SE's a year or two before the re-design.

I would really have to fall in love with a SE, to take me off my Next Gen game plan. I'm thinking of a Next Gen SE instead.
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Old 4/27/11, 12:10 AM
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They always do SE before a design change to keep interest up.

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2013-2014 ?(Mach 1 NA 5.8)
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