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Old 1/30/10, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fdjizm
as well sorted out as the camaro's IRS? have you heard the complaints about the SS's sub par handling? or the fact that u can throw a track pack on an SRA mustang and it outhandles the camaro.

even camaro fans say it doesn't handle how they expected.
The Camaro's subpar handling is due to its weight and the fact it is under-tired.

A 245 tire on a car that is pushing over 3800lbs..The Mustang is running the same size tire up front with 250-300lbs. less weight.

What you don't see the Mustang doing is outhandling the likes of a M3, a car with a very similar weight..the article in which it stated the Mustang was keeping up with the M3 was on Pirelli Corsa Competition tires while the M3 was on worn out Mich. PS2's. Don't get me wrong, the fact that a Mustang can even be mentioned with the likes of a M3 is an accomplishment in the eyes of many Mustang owners.

The fact is the Mustang for its next cycle better have an IRS or forget about the car going global.

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Originally Posted by Dave07997S
The Camaro's subpar handling is due to its weight and the fact it is under-tired.

A 245 tire on a car that is pushing over 3800lbs..The Mustang is running the same size tire up front with 250-300lbs. less weight.

What you don't see the Mustang doing is outhandling the likes of a M3, a car with a very similar weight..the article in which it stated the Mustang was keeping up with the M3 was on Pirelli Corsa Competition tires while the M3 was on worn out Mich. PS2's. Don't get me wrong, the fact that a Mustang can even be mentioned with the likes of a M3 is an accomplishment in the eyes of many Mustang owners.

The fact is the Mustang for its next cycle better have an IRS or forget about the car going global.

Dave
Perhaps it will make itself more apparent this year on the race tracks in the Grand Am series? The Camaro did pretty good this time around. 1st 3 finishers were IRS-equipped. We shall see...
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Perhaps it will make itself more apparent this year on the race tracks in the Grand Am series? The Camaro did pretty good this time around. 1st 3 finishers were IRS-equipped. We shall see...
The teams that moved from the E46 M3 to the E92 M3 with its S65 V8 are going to dominate this year. Bill Auberlien and Turner Motorsports should have won it last year, but they had to run the S54 I6 to the ragged edge to keep up with the 400+hp of the 5.0L Cammer cars that they had a few DNF's. Turners should have won it last year.

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Personally I think we will see IRS in the next generation Mustang, if for no other reason that it would be a next logical step in a continuous improvement process that is car-making. Now, that is not to say that the current setup is bad, but as we all know there are limitations with the SRA. I would think that the question that the design team is asking themselves is, "does the IRS offer an imrovement that would enhance the the overall value of the vehicle with respect to 95% of the customer base?" Does it enhance drivability, handling, ride quality, etc., without adding significant cost or degrading any high performance capability objectives of the car. I would say the simple answer is yes. I personally don't buy the argument that the Mustang uses a SRA because its customer base wants that setup for drag racing, etc. We here on these boards know full well that the vast majority of stangs in any trim will never see a strip or a track. I think we have a SRA because it meets the performance objectives of its makers at a very low cost and in the car manufacturing business that's the end of the discussion. The same reason the Camaro SSs have Brembos standard and Mustang GTs (2011) don't. Camaros NEED them, the Mustangs don't, it's that simple. And if the platform is going to be shared with other vehicles, well, I can't think of any small sedan or coupe out there that uses a SRA, so the platform would almost certainly be built to accept an IRS. Should be interesting, guess we'll just have to wait and see. That's all I have for now!
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I think the next generation Mustang will have a IRS, weigh around 250-350 pounds lighter and along with the 305 hp V-6 and the 412 hp V-8, i feel we will also see a (est) 225 hp EcoBoost 4 cylinder.
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Sounds good to me!

Originally Posted by David Young
I think the next generation Mustang will have a IRS, weigh around 250-350 pounds lighter and along with the 305 hp V-6 and the 412 hp V-8, i feel we will also see a (est) 225 hp EcoBoost 4 cylinder.
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Besides IRS, I'd like to see Ford add electronically adjustable shock absorbers providing the price isn't too high. It would nice to have a Sport setting for fast driving and a Cushy setting for when you're driving down a rotten busted up street.
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magnetorheological (sp??) shocks would be a better choice, although a bit pricey.
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If the Mustang (therefore all incarnations of..Shelby, Roush, etc) can mate that beautiful style, glorious power, and fearsome reputation with the IRS that we in Australia have on our FPV GT series here....WOW!! That is a car that will be unbeatable! Here in Aus we love our cars big, loud, V8 and rear wheel drive....Bring it!
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IRS, need I say more...

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Originally Posted by Overboost
That'll be one of the serious upgrades that my Mustang gets. Watt's link is a great interim to the IRS, but not a true replacement.

I'd love for them to offer the Watt's link in a Stage 2 (or 3) Track Pack. I think the true weekend warriors would pick it up quickly.


Ford has made a RWD Watts Link equipped car available here in the US since 1990, I don't understand why they don't equip the Mustang with a Watts Link!!
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Originally Posted by rhumb
Oh, man!
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LMAO, thats a very convincing argument Rhumb
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After all my deeply thought out, well considered and detailed technically rational discourses on the advantages of an IRS and it comes down to some bouncing ta-tas to finally sell the point!
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you win some you lose some, and that last point was definatly a winner!
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I'm sold.
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I...LOVE...IRS...
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and let this be forever known that the IRS/SRA debate was finally, unequivocally, unmistakable ended here
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Originally Posted by rhumb
After all my deeply thought out, well considered and detailed technically rational discourses on the advantages of an IRS and it comes down to some bouncing ta-tas to finally sell the point!
you could have saved alot of posts man


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