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Old 1/20/10, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Overboost
I saw nothing in that article that mentions specifically getting an IRS. I do see it coming, especially if they move to a global platform, but that article was junk.
You're really living up to your avatar, Buzz...
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You're really living up to your avatar, Buzz...
What?
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Originally Posted by Overboost
What?
Buzz Killington! You're killing everyone's IRS buzz by refuting the claim that the article states the Mustang would receive the suspension in years to come.
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Originally Posted by MARZ
Buzz Killington! You're killing everyone's IRS buzz by refuting the claim that the article states the Mustang would receive the suspension in years to come.
Wow, I'm thick LOL.

I'm not saying it won't happen, but this article was a joke.
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Originally Posted by Overboost
Wow, I'm thick LOL.

I'm not saying it won't happen, but this article was a joke.
IRS only needs to happen to shut up the rags and media outlets, IMO. Anyone who's driven a 2010 Mustang knows exactly what I'm talking about.
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Originally Posted by Overboost
What?
Your avatar is Buzz Killington! See where I'm coming from now?


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Originally Posted by fdjizm
as well sorted out as the camaro's IRS? have you heard the complaints about the SS's sub par handling? or the fact that u can throw a track pack on an SRA mustang and it outhandles the camaro.

even camaro fans say it doesn't handle how they expected.
Check C&D's Lightning lap. The Camaro SS beat the TP Mustang by almost 4 seconds.

About time Ford added IRS to the GT!!!
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Originally Posted by MARZ
IRS only needs to happen to shut up the rags and media outlets, IMO. Anyone who's driven a 2010 Mustang knows exactly what I'm talking about.
I agree, and have defended the SLA for a long time. I've got an IRS equipped vehicle now and it's nothing special, it still shows its weight in the turns. The 2010s I've driven are well enough equipped to handle it. I'd love a Watt's link, but I can always add that to a 2011 down the road.

And sorry for being a Buzzkill, but I'm being a realist. I think Jalopnik is a good site, but that post was useless, and so was MT's analysis.
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The only racing series that still use SRA is GAC and NASCAR. Look under the suspension of any modern race car and you will notice a trend. SRA is inferior to an IRS in terms of ride & performance. The reason Ford uses it is COST!
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The only racing series that still use SRA is GAC and NASCAR. Look under the suspension of any modern race car and you will notice a trend. SRA is inferior to an IRS in terms of ride & performance. The reason Ford uses it is COST!
Of course the reason is cost. After all, Ford is in the business of making money as efficiently as they possibly can. That said, I do hope that the 2014 Mustang brings us IRS, even though I would be happy with a Watts-equipped 2011 Mustang GT .
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Originally Posted by fdjizm
as well sorted out as the camaro's IRS? have you heard the complaints about the SS's sub par handling? or the fact that u can throw a track pack on an SRA mustang and it outhandles the camaro.

even camaro fans say it doesn't handle how they expected.
Care to drag race one of those crappy handling F5s?

In an odd twist of fate the IRS equippedf F5 has turned out to be a better drag racer and the SRA equipped S-197 is the very definition of wheel-hop.

Personally I'd like to keep the SRA in the Mustang - I'm a firm disciple in the church of K.I.S.S - but if the 2014 Mustang is going IRS I want my cake and pie with a big side of ice cream. Ergo, drag racing and tearing up the road circuit are not to be mutually exclusive.

GM did it, Ford can certainly do it.
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Originally Posted by MARZ
Of course the reason is cost. After all, Ford is in the business of making money as efficiently as they possibly can. That said, I do hope that the 2014 Mustang brings us IRS, even though I would be happy with a Watts-equipped 2011 Mustang GT .
A Watts-equipped 2011 Mustang GT would be the bomb and would be perfect in my eyes as i love the old school feel of SRA. But im sure it will not happen, not in '11 at least.
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Just say no to the IRS no more taxes on mustangs.
















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Originally Posted by DarkCandy08GT
A Watts-equipped 2011 Mustang GT would be the bomb and would be perfect in my eyes as i love the old school feel of SRA. But im sure it will not happen, not in '11 at least.
I'm with you, man. I wish Ford would offer a factory-equipped Watts Link. There are several excellent aftermarket pieces, though, and I'm sure Ford is very aware of that fact.
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Originally Posted by MARZ
I'm with you, man. I wish Ford would offer a factory-equipped Watts Link. There are several excellent aftermarket pieces, though, and I'm sure Ford is very aware of that fact.
That'll be one of the serious upgrades that my Mustang gets. Watt's link is a great interim to the IRS, but not a true replacement.

I'd love for them to offer the Watt's link in a Stage 2 (or 3) Track Pack. I think the true weekend warriors would pick it up quickly.
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Originally Posted by MARZ
I'm with you, man. I wish Ford would offer a factory-equipped Watts Link. There are several excellent aftermarket pieces, though, and I'm sure Ford is very aware of that fact.
Maybe we will see it in 2012 on. It's an upgrade over a panhard setup, but not as good as a well engineered independent.
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a watts link would certainly make the rearend feel less skitish compared to the panhard rod (daygonit swinging through its fixed arc).
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Originally Posted by MARZ
Equal to an M3 in terms of what? From what I understand, the 2011 GT is already there in terms of power, and almost there in terms of handling.

Marz as the owner of a 2008 M3 - I don't think the next gen Mustang is going to be quite the equivalent of the M3 - but compared to my previous Mustang's it sounds as if the 2014+ will be quite an upgrade in power and handling. The M3 is really "sublime" in the handling/balance/steering feedback/braking/hp/luxury areas and for the Mustang to match the M3 I'm afraid the Mustang would have to cost a lot more and would no longer be the great car that it is - an affordable, fun, powerful and unique looking ride! Don't get me wrong ever since my folks purchased a brand new 1967 Mustang 289 coupe (pony interior/alum dash accents) I have always liked the Mustang and have had 8 Mustangs over the years (1971 Grande Coupe, 1973 Grande Coupe 351C, 1973 Mustang convertible 351C, 1995 6cyl vert, 2000GT vert, 2005GT Coupe, 2007 GT/CS vert and a 2007 ShelbyGT500 vert) They were all great rides and I will have another Mustang before too long
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Originally Posted by HOTLAP
Marz as the owner of a 2008 M3 - I don't think the next gen Mustang is going to be quite the equivalent of the M3 - but compared to my previous Mustang's it sounds as if the 2014+ will be quite an upgrade in power and handling. The M3 is really "sublime" in the handling/balance/steering feedback/braking/hp/luxury areas and for the Mustang to match the M3 I'm afraid the Mustang would have to cost a lot more and would no longer be the great car that it is - an affordable, fun, powerful and unique looking ride! Don't get me wrong ever since my folks purchased a brand new 1967 Mustang 289 coupe (pony interior/alum dash accents) I have always liked the Mustang and have had 8 Mustangs over the years (1971 Grande Coupe, 1973 Grande Coupe 351C, 1973 Mustang convertible 351C, 1995 6cyl vert, 2000GT vert, 2005GT Coupe, 2007 GT/CS vert and a 2007 ShelbyGT500 vert) They were all great rides and I will have another Mustang before too long
I don't think the 2011+ Mustang will be quite the overall package that the M3 is, no. I do think, though, that the new 'Stang will be quite a handful for the M3's out on the tracks as well as on the streets.
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It may be there in terms of power and handling, but it just doesn't have that luxury car feel, and as its a muscle car, it shouldn't. But I am guessing that it will begin to head in that direction. Thats one of the reasons that I want to get mine soon, before it gets too soft.
I agree, and I think it's a mistake. Why does the Mustang need to "improve" to compete in other segments. It's already got a segment where it's the segment leader (that can be debated, but at least it's one of the segment leaders). Why should it "improve" and head into a segment where it's the new kid on the block.

A Mustang has never been a luxury car or about sophistication, and it shouldn't abandon it's roots.

I guess the irony is that if the Mustang did get more luxury it would positively affect my decision to buy it when I get a new car in about 1 - 2 years. However, I think Ford would lose more of the traditional crowd than pick up buyers like myself.


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