2.3L EB 4? 2.7L EB 6?
#1
2.3L EB 4? 2.7L EB 6?
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...ne-for-mustang
h/t edstock
We already know that an EcoBoost turbocharged four-cylinder that displaces 2.0 liters will be going into the upcoming 2013 Ford Taurus and other models, and now we're hearing that a 2.3-liter version of that same engine--with a different cylinder head configuration--will be going into the Mustang (it will also be used for Lincoln platforms) around 2015.
Ford is also working on a 2.7-liter turbocharged V-6, according to our source, and that engine will be used in both front-wheel and rear-wheel drive cars.
Ford is also working on a 2.7-liter turbocharged V-6, according to our source, and that engine will be used in both front-wheel and rear-wheel drive cars.
Fear not, V-8 fans, as the 5.0-liter Coyote that currently powers the Mustang GT does not appear to be going anywhere soon. However, it might receive direct-injection technology, which could improve fuel economy. A source indicates that Ford has also studied turbocharging its V-8s, but nothing has been approved for possible production.
#2
I personally would love to have that as an option. The truck they torture tested did it for me. A lighter,way faster revving because of less rotational mass(2 less cylinders). I wonder if they could spin it to 9-10k rpms. That would be awesome and the best part is it's factory warantee. You know I have been looking at car makers in general and ford is leading the way implementing new better tech and product. The other guys still have push rods. Like dude,get out of the stone age,pushrod motors have hit their plateau. It's not getting better,however ford is leading the way with 4v motors and there is still room to improve,not stunted like a pushrod. I was always a chev guy,always. I simply took a very good look and I get on the forums and ask guys who bought one. Ford simply has evolved and is growing and proving that their tech is superior and reliably. Jmo
#3
I wonder if the V6 will be offered in both displacements (3.7 and 2.7). I hope so, as it'd offer those that want the smoothness of a V6, but don't neccessarily need the power the smaller capacity, whilst those that want to go-fast, can choose the 2.7
It'll be interesting to see the power and economy of the 2.3, too. In 2.0 guise, it's only getting mid 20s to the gallon when powering the likes of the S-Max MPV over here.
I'm only interested in the V8 though
It'll be interesting to see the power and economy of the 2.3, too. In 2.0 guise, it's only getting mid 20s to the gallon when powering the likes of the S-Max MPV over here.
I'm only interested in the V8 though
Last edited by Twin Turbo; 6/1/11 at 09:41 AM.
#5
The next-generation Mustang is supposed to be a couple hundred pounds lighter than the current one. Given that, I think a 2.3 or 2.5 with EcoBoost could give us the same performance as today's Mustang with the 3.7, and perhaps add 2-3 MPG in normal driving. An EcoBoosted 3.7 or 3.5 (provided that they add TiVCT to the 3.5) ought to make a great optional engine for the GT. I say optional because a lot of Mustang fans would positively riot if the GT were no longer available with a V8. I think Ford should definitely make an EcoBoost V6 in the range of 2.7 to 2.9 liters, although it's not necessary for the Mustang. Presumably this engine would have TiVCT and ought to make in the ballpark of 300 - 340 horsepower. There are a number of vehicles where that would be the sweet spot. It would make a nice Fusion SHO or be a good standard engine in the Taurus or Flex. So I wonder if this is an all-new engine or a lower-displacement version of the existing 3.5/3.7?
#10
Only way to get better gas mileage is lower displacement and so smaller turboed would be able to still put out more hp than current 3.7 N/A but also do better MPG.
#12
Question.. will the manufacture need all of their vehicles to meet CAFE standards, or will a trim for each vehicle be enough?
#13
CAFE stands for Corporate Average Fuel Economy, so it has been the average for all of the cars sold by a company in a certain year. I know there was a proposal -- and I don't know if it has passed -- to amend that, though. Under the proposed (passed?) rules change, there would be different categories based on size and each category would have it's own average that would have to be met. If this happens, a million Fiestas wouldn't help offset the V8 Mustang because they're in two different categories. It's possible that in the future, Ford may have to build some extra money into the price of the Mustang GT to pay for the fines. Aren't you glad we've got the government helping us choose our cars?
#14
Originally Posted by RandyW
CAFE stands for Corporate Average Fuel Economy, so it has been the average for all of the cars sold by a company in a certain year. I know there was a proposal -- and I don't know if it has passed -- to amend that, though. Under the proposed (passed?) rules change, there would be different categories based on size and each category would have it's own average that would have to be met. If this happens, a million Fiestas wouldn't help offset the V8 Mustang because they're in two different categories. It's possible that in the future, Ford may have to build some extra money into the price of the Mustang GT to pay for the fines. Aren't you glad we've got the government helping us choose our cars?
But anyways I like the idea of doing 3 engines with the smallest being a turbo 4 in the high 30mpgs.
#15
I think a 3.5L Ecoboost would be too close to the 5.0 in performance so the 2.7L makes sense. I have to think the 2.7L will make 340/340 HP/TQ and beat the current 3.7L in fuel economy. I was pretty sold on a V8 but a V6 making 340/340 and getting 30+ mpg would probably sale me in a new Mustang.
#16
I think a 3.5L Ecoboost would be too close to the 5.0 in performance so the 2.7L makes sense. I have to think the 2.7L will make 340/340 HP/TQ and beat the current 3.7L in fuel economy. I was pretty sold on a V8 but a V6 making 340/340 and getting 30+ mpg would probably sale me in a new Mustang.
THey won't put that many options down on the table.
I'd expect the Eco to be smaller, and the GT to keep the V8.
#17
You know the I4 Turbo sounds interesting. Im coming around to forced induction. I may be the only one on here that remembers the 79 Turbo Mustang. I friend had one and it blew up way way early. He did beat the crap out of it though. In Fords defense he blew up a Cordoba, F150, and even floated the valves out of a slant six. This guy was as hard on equipment as anybody I have ever known.
Im thinking maybe 260 hp and a drop in weight could produce what the old 4.6 2v would do only with better mileage. THe 2 liter turbo is a go and its 237 hp I think. I have a hard time thinking that Ford would build a T4 for just the Mustang. So many questions and not enough answers yet.
Im thinking maybe 260 hp and a drop in weight could produce what the old 4.6 2v would do only with better mileage. THe 2 liter turbo is a go and its 237 hp I think. I have a hard time thinking that Ford would build a T4 for just the Mustang. So many questions and not enough answers yet.
#18
You're right, Ford probably wouldn't build such an engine for the Mustang exclusively. But they've already made it known that they are developing EcoBoost 4 cylinders in 1.6, 2.0 and 2.5 liter displacements for the Fiesta, Focus, and Edge. It's almost certain that these engines will also show up in the Fusion, MKZ, and probably the Taurus and the next generation Escape. Maybe the Transit Connect, too, eventually.
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