Possible Cobra return?
Where did you get this info from? ALL Mustangs are built in Flat Rock, MI at AAI. The Engines for the GT500 are hand built in Romeo, MI, but the car is built in only one location. They are blended in with all other vehicles at AAI, including Mazda6's.
--don't call anything a Boss 429 that doesn't have an engine that displaces 429 cubic inches. Period.But if you're gonna use the 5.4L and call it a Boss, use the FR500C's larger bore barrels/pistons/rings that make the 4.6L into a 5.0L (which I believe will work out to 351 cubic inches)--and THAT, ladies and gentlemen, would be absolutely effin' perfect for a Boss 351, eh?
Greg "Eights" Ates
Greg "Lost in Michigan" Ates
You couldn't be more wrong. Shelby has been involved with the car from the start and the current GT500 owes much to the GT500KR- which was basically built by Shelby.
Oy. The KR was engineered by FORD. Shelby Automotive assembled it. I don't know how many articles have covered that fact. The KR was basically the test bed for the GT500's to come (with a few lucky buyers financing the engineering effort at 80g+ a pop). As for Mr. Shelby's involvement is any of this, he is a figure head, a "spiritual" influence if you will. By his own admission, he is not now nor has ever been an engineer and personally contributed nothing to the practical development of the GT500. Except for that name, of course.
I think they would wait till the Boss 302 run was over, from what I remember, the shelby faded when the Boss, Mach, hit the floors. The 70's were just hold overs. Also remember, was the SVT cobra just a stop gap since they could not have the "shelby" name on a car? Is not the Shelby GT 500, Shelby GT, etc., doing what the SVT did or could do? Now if Shelby ends the production, then I would see a resurgance of the SVT models.
This week Alan Mulally announced that Ford wants to decrease the number of nameplates it produces worldwide--and later functionaries said that could mean paring the nameplates down to 20-25 when the dealing's done. That's pretty damned shocking when you consider cars, trucks, SUVs, CUVs, and whatever else is out there! I sorta think the Shelbys aren't considered to be a part of this nameplate purge, but I got no "informed source". And there are unique Fords manufactured in Brazil, Australia, China, Yurp, and of course North America (To my limited knowedge, no Ford nameplates are unique to the Mexican or Canadian markets--they have the same Fords as the US market).
I approve of this move, but I can't see that this improves the chances of a reborn Mustang Cobra. I ain't sayin' it hurts the chances of a reborn Mustang Cobra, but...
I think the following are definitely safe: F-Series, Focus, Fusion, Fiesta, Mustang, Escape, and the Explorer--but in this case I think it's safe only because it is brand new.
Greg "Trying to make sense of the tea leaves" Ates
PS: Supposedly, the Mondeo of Yurp and the Fusion of North America are gonna be combined into one chassis/model fairly soon, which should cut the nameplate count by one.
Also, this announcement doesn't bode well for the hinted-at "green" new Ford GT rumor making modest headlines this week. Even if it should offer 2004 Ford GT levels of performance at a miserly thirty-eight MPG, people ain't gonna rush out to purchase a $100,000+ car...A Mustang Cobra should surely have a better chance of making production than would a "green" new Ford GT.
I approve of this move, but I can't see that this improves the chances of a reborn Mustang Cobra. I ain't sayin' it hurts the chances of a reborn Mustang Cobra, but...
I think the following are definitely safe: F-Series, Focus, Fusion, Fiesta, Mustang, Escape, and the Explorer--but in this case I think it's safe only because it is brand new.
Greg "Trying to make sense of the tea leaves" Ates
PS: Supposedly, the Mondeo of Yurp and the Fusion of North America are gonna be combined into one chassis/model fairly soon, which should cut the nameplate count by one.
Also, this announcement doesn't bode well for the hinted-at "green" new Ford GT rumor making modest headlines this week. Even if it should offer 2004 Ford GT levels of performance at a miserly thirty-eight MPG, people ain't gonna rush out to purchase a $100,000+ car...A Mustang Cobra should surely have a better chance of making production than would a "green" new Ford GT.
Last edited by Eights; Sep 29, 2010 at 09:37 AM.
Greg, you've gotta get out of the mindset that the Cobra is a different vehicle than the Mustang. They will share the same chassis, as they have all along.
The next gen is alive and well, no need for the "sky is falling" mentality that we've seen here plenty of times before.
The next gen is alive and well, no need for the "sky is falling" mentality that we've seen here plenty of times before.
well in mexico they have the courier, and they also have an SUV called the EcoSport which looks pretty cool.
Courier: http://www.ford.com.mx/vehicles/home...sp?idModel=COU
EcoSport: http://www.ford.com.mx/vehicles/home...sp?idModel=ECO
Courier: http://www.ford.com.mx/vehicles/home...sp?idModel=COU
EcoSport: http://www.ford.com.mx/vehicles/home...sp?idModel=ECO
well in mexico they have the courier, and they also have an SUV called the EcoSport which looks pretty cool.
Courier: http://www.ford.com.mx/vehicles/home...sp?idModel=COU
EcoSport: http://www.ford.com.mx/vehicles/home...sp?idModel=ECO
Courier: http://www.ford.com.mx/vehicles/home...sp?idModel=COU
EcoSport: http://www.ford.com.mx/vehicles/home...sp?idModel=ECO
In any case, that just adds to the nameplates that Ford will have to sift through to cull the worldwide lineup to just 20-25 nameplates.
Overboost may have solved the dilemma: Mustang Cobras may just be (rightfully so, methinks) considered a subset of the Mustang nameplate by Ford and thus not a product that counts as a distinct nameplate. Thanks for the slap up 'side the head, OB!
Greg "Eights" Ates
Last edited by Eights; Oct 4, 2010 at 09:54 AM.




Overboost 2, Eights 0!
This is a great topic. I can't wait to see what really happens.
