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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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Now tell me, are the new Bosses built on the regular Mustang production lines in Ann Arbor or on the SVT production line in Ann Arbor? Does Team Mustang also have a separate production line just for special editions like SVT has for the GT500?
Where did you get this info from? ALL Mustangs are built in Flat Rock, MI at AAI. The Engines for the GT500 are hand built in Romeo, MI, but the car is built in only one location. They are blended in with all other vehicles at AAI, including Mazda6's.
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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If they call a Boss with a 5.4 in it, the Boss 429, I will be pissed. Call it Boss 331 or don't do it at all.
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by laserred38
If they call a Boss with a 5.4 in it, the Boss 429, I will be pissed. Call it Boss 331 or don't do it at all.
--don't call anything a Boss 429 that doesn't have an engine that displaces 429 cubic inches. Period.

But if you're gonna use the 5.4L and call it a Boss, use the FR500C's larger bore barrels/pistons/rings that make the 4.6L into a 5.0L (which I believe will work out to 351 cubic inches)--and THAT, ladies and gentlemen, would be absolutely effin' perfect for a Boss 351, eh?

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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 12:13 AM
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Works for me...
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Overboost
Where did you get this info from? ALL Mustangs are built in Flat Rock, MI at AAI. The Engines for the GT500 are hand built in Romeo, MI, but the car is built in only one location. They are blended in with all other vehicles at AAI, including Mazda6's.
Overboost: Thanks for the correction! Where, indeed, did I come up with Ann Arbor?

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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 03:46 PM
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cobra R for 2014. why not????

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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Randy M
If I ever end up with a GT500 the reason won't be that 'it's a Shelby'. Imo the Shelby name on the car is a little false. I'd rather it be called something else. Maybe Boss 500. Anything that isn't tied to someone who really didn't have anything to do with the car.
You couldn't be more wrong. Shelby has been involved with the car from the start and the current GT500 owes much to the GT500KR- which was basically built by Shelby.
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Old Sep 14, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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You couldn't be more wrong. Shelby has been involved with the car from the start and the current GT500 owes much to the GT500KR- which was basically built by Shelby.
Oy. The KR was engineered by FORD. Shelby Automotive assembled it. I don't know how many articles have covered that fact. The KR was basically the test bed for the GT500's to come (with a few lucky buyers financing the engineering effort at 80g+ a pop). As for Mr. Shelby's involvement is any of this, he is a figure head, a "spiritual" influence if you will. By his own admission, he is not now nor has ever been an engineer and personally contributed nothing to the practical development of the GT500. Except for that name, of course.
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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So Shelby BUILT the KR, correct? So it was built by Shelby.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 08:12 AM
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I think they would wait till the Boss 302 run was over, from what I remember, the shelby faded when the Boss, Mach, hit the floors. The 70's were just hold overs. Also remember, was the SVT cobra just a stop gap since they could not have the "shelby" name on a car? Is not the Shelby GT 500, Shelby GT, etc., doing what the SVT did or could do? Now if Shelby ends the production, then I would see a resurgance of the SVT models.
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by traffic142
Also remember, was the SVT cobra just a stop gap since they could not have the "shelby" name on a car? .
That'd be a LONG stop gap....
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 09:23 AM
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This week Alan Mulally announced that Ford wants to decrease the number of nameplates it produces worldwide--and later functionaries said that could mean paring the nameplates down to 20-25 when the dealing's done. That's pretty damned shocking when you consider cars, trucks, SUVs, CUVs, and whatever else is out there! I sorta think the Shelbys aren't considered to be a part of this nameplate purge, but I got no "informed source". And there are unique Fords manufactured in Brazil, Australia, China, Yurp, and of course North America (To my limited knowedge, no Ford nameplates are unique to the Mexican or Canadian markets--they have the same Fords as the US market).

I approve of this move, but I can't see that this improves the chances of a reborn Mustang Cobra. I ain't sayin' it hurts the chances of a reborn Mustang Cobra, but...

I think the following are definitely safe: F-Series, Focus, Fusion, Fiesta, Mustang, Escape, and the Explorer--but in this case I think it's safe only because it is brand new.

Greg "Trying to make sense of the tea leaves" Ates

PS: Supposedly, the Mondeo of Yurp and the Fusion of North America are gonna be combined into one chassis/model fairly soon, which should cut the nameplate count by one.
Also, this announcement doesn't bode well for the hinted-at "green" new Ford GT rumor making modest headlines this week. Even if it should offer 2004 Ford GT levels of performance at a miserly thirty-eight MPG, people ain't gonna rush out to purchase a $100,000+ car...A Mustang Cobra should surely have a better chance of making production than would a "green" new Ford GT.

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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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Greg, you've gotta get out of the mindset that the Cobra is a different vehicle than the Mustang. They will share the same chassis, as they have all along.

The next gen is alive and well, no need for the "sky is falling" mentality that we've seen here plenty of times before.
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 09:34 AM
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well in mexico they have the courier, and they also have an SUV called the EcoSport which looks pretty cool.

Courier: http://www.ford.com.mx/vehicles/home...sp?idModel=COU

EcoSport: http://www.ford.com.mx/vehicles/home...sp?idModel=ECO
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 20115.0
well in mexico they have the courier, and they also have an SUV called the EcoSport which looks pretty cool.

Courier: http://www.ford.com.mx/vehicles/home...sp?idModel=COU

EcoSport: http://www.ford.com.mx/vehicles/home...sp?idModel=ECO
I stand corrected! That little pickup is unique (a pickup version of the Ka????) for sure, but the pic of the EcoSport looks like a different front fascia on an Escape. Is that the case?

In any case, that just adds to the nameplates that Ford will have to sift through to cull the worldwide lineup to just 20-25 nameplates.

Overboost may have solved the dilemma: Mustang Cobras may just be (rightfully so, methinks) considered a subset of the Mustang nameplate by Ford and thus not a product that counts as a distinct nameplate. Thanks for the slap up 'side the head, OB!

Greg "Eights" Ates

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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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I didn't solve the dilemma, I knew the answer.
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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Overboost
I didn't solve the dilemma, I knew the answer.
Overboost 2, Eights 0!

Greg "****, lost again" Ates

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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Eights
Overboost 2, Eights 0!

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This is a great topic. I can't wait to see what really happens.

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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 08:29 AM
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That Courier looks cool in a weird way
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 08:34 AM
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^ and a whole 95 hp! lol
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