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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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The Shelby badging will eventually stop and Ford will use its own name for performance products. What that will be is anyone's guess but I'm not sure if they'll still use the SVT skunkworks moniker anymore. It will probably be Ford Racing, as it mostly is now.
Doubtful. Ford Racing doesn't put their name on any roadgoing cars now. The Boss was done by Team Mustang, and the Shelby is still an SVT program. The 302S, 302R, and Cobra Jet are Ford Racing, but not sold with VINs on them. SVT will remain as the hi-po variant of the Mustang.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by goesfast
The Shelby badging will eventually stop and Ford will use its own name for performance products. What that will be is anyone's guess but I'm not sure if they'll still use the SVT skunkworks moniker anymore. It will probably be Ford Racing, as it mostly is now.
What's funny is that you guys think once the name is off, you'll pay less. Don't count it.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 03:54 PM
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What's funny is that you guys think once the name is off, you'll pay less. Don't count it.
Yep. The forthcoming "Cobra II" remake is going to be expensive!
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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My cousin's sisters best friends knows a guy who heard this rumor from a dude who is credible because he once used a bathroom at a ford dealership.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 04:24 PM
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My cousin's sisters best friends knows a guy who heard this rumor from a dude who is credible because he once used a bathroom at a ford dealership.
Did he wipe good and wash his hands?
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 04:44 PM
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If he stopped to wash his hands we would have not made it out of the dealer with the confidential information.
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Old Oct 27, 2011 | 10:40 PM
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Did he even wipe? Or did he just sacrifice for the team
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Old Oct 28, 2011 | 04:43 AM
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he was "ridin dirty" for the good of all mustangers!
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Old Oct 28, 2011 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by goesfast
The Shelby badging will eventually stop and Ford will use its own name for performance products. What that will be is anyone's guess but I'm not sure if they'll still use the SVT skunkworks moniker anymore. It will probably be Ford Racing, as it mostly is now.
That was my presumption when the Boss returned... why pay royalties and give all the kudos to a third party when Ford can do it by themselves?

Still, it's nice to have mucho options on one car - it also makes the forums interesting...
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Old Oct 28, 2011 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Kinyodas

That was my presumption when the Boss returned... why pay royalties and give all the kudos to a third party when Ford can do it by themselves?

Still, it's nice to have mucho options on one car - it also makes the forums interesting...
Why? History :duh:!!!!!!
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Old Oct 28, 2011 | 09:52 AM
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Why? History :duh:!!!!!!
If you went to the Ford bean counters and asked them if they wanted $$$ or history... They'd probably opt for the simoleons.

It was just my thoughts when the Boss returned - I expected SVTs / Cobras & others to follow behind to get more cash from the enhanced market and push out the competition.

I'm not saying thats a good thing - that was my presumption. It would be sad day not to have umpteen choices from different vendors - it would be un-American, un-Mustang.

Know what??? I'm going to play the Powerball this weekend for poops & giggles. Should I win, I'll go buy one of each just to proove to myself that I am not biased!

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Old Oct 28, 2011 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Kinyodas

If you went to the Ford bean counters and asked them if they wanted $$$ or history... They'd probably opt for the simoleons.

It was just my thoughts when the Boss returned - I expected SVTs / Cobras & others to follow behind to get more cash from the enhanced market and push out the competition.

I'm not saying thats a good thing - that was my presumption. It would be sad day not to have umpteen choices from different vendors - it would be un-American, un-Mustang.

Know what??? I'm going to play the Powerball this weekend for poops & giggles. Should I win, I'll go buy one of each just to proove to myself that I am not biased!
Well when the Shelby is no longer made please enjoy the 5.00 dollars you're going to save.
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Old Oct 28, 2011 | 12:16 PM
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If they had a 5.0 CobraJet out, I would have bought that before the Boss, I love my Boss but Im more into DragRacing, a lighter gutted CobraJet would have fit my interest.
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Old Oct 28, 2011 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Kinyodas
That was my presumption when the Boss returned... why pay royalties and give all the kudos to a third party when Ford can do it by themselves?

Still, it's nice to have mucho options on one car - it also makes the forums interesting...
Exactly why the Boss is priced reasonably. It would be scary-priced if a third party were involved, plus all warranty concerns go back to Ford alone. Just think back to the 2007 Shelby GT: Quite pricey because too many hands touched it. Enter the 2008 Mustang Bullitt: every bit as good if not better (although handling was not on par with the Shelby), very few recalls/claims, and a lot cheaper! Nobody can stamp out cars cheaper than the original manufacturers themselves.
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Old Oct 28, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 11SHELBYGT500
What's funny is that you guys think once the name is off, you'll pay less. Don't count it.
Never thought that at all. Once the price point is established, it's a support line and goes up from there. Gotta pay for all that R/D that went into it.
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Old Oct 28, 2011 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by UnrealFord
If they had a 5.0 CobraJet out, I would have bought that before the Boss, I love my Boss but Im more into DragRacing, a lighter gutted CobraJet would have fit my interest.
Jalopnik had a quote from someone that mentioned they were looking into it. It was in one of their "Morning Shift" articles from the past week.

Edit: added the link, which was from MustangsDaily

http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/2011/1...er-v8-options/

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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by goesfast
The Shelby badging will eventually stop and Ford will use its own name for performance products. What that will be is anyone's guess but I'm not sure if they'll still use the SVT skunkworks moniker anymore. It will probably be Ford Racing, as it mostly is now.
Ford Racing uses badges on Ford production cars? The only FOrd Racing cars im aware of are the Boss 302S, Boss 302R, Cobra Jet, and the Focus ST-R
Originally Posted by Kinyodas
If you went to the Ford bean counters and asked them if they wanted $$$ or history... They'd probably opt for the simoleons.

It was just my thoughts when the Boss returned - I expected SVTs / Cobras & others to follow behind to get more cash from the enhanced market and push out the competition.

I'm not saying thats a good thing - that was my presumption. It would be sad day not to have umpteen choices from different vendors - it would be un-American, un-Mustang.

Know what??? I'm going to play the Powerball this weekend for poops & giggles. Should I win, I'll go buy one of each just to proove to myself that I am not biased!
History = money!

Its one reason why when the Shelbys first came out you were paying sometimes 30k over sticker price or when the GT500KRs came out it was not uncommon to see dealers try to sell them for 100K or with the Boss you are paying over sticker sometimes. History sells cars, its part of the nostalgia and legendary part of the Mustang and the Camaro and Challenger and the car world its self. Especially when it comes to the retro body styles that we have the history part has been a big contributor in the Ford has marketed the Mustang over the last 8 years
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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 04:22 PM
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Ford Racing uses badges on Ford production cars? The only FOrd Racing cars im aware of are the Boss 302S, Boss 302R, Cobra Jet, and the Focus ST-R


No, I was referring to the Shelby badging used at present on the Shelby GT500. I stated that Ford Racing was behind the performance end of their cars being produced now but nothing about badging them as such. They are however, using the "Powered By Ford" stamp more often now. The questions was will they be using the "Ford Racing" logo going into the future? Don't know, but more than likely as they've already been using it on the models you mentioned.

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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by goesfast
Ford Racing uses badges on Ford production cars? The only FOrd Racing cars im aware of are the Boss 302S, Boss 302R, Cobra Jet, and the Focus ST-R


No, I was referring to the Shelby badging used at present on the Shelby GT500. I stated that Ford Racing was behind the performance end of their cars being produced now but nothing about badging them as such, although there have been some models outside of the ones you noted that have indeed had Ford Racing logos affixed either on the valve covers, sill plates, and body panels.They are however, using the "Powered By Ford" stamp more often now. The questions was will they be using the "Ford Racing" logo going into the future? Don't know, but more than likely as they've already been using it on the models you mentioned.
And all of those cars have what in common? Not street cars, but rather serialized race vehicles. Once again, proving you know very little about the topic. Ford Racing has very little to do with the GT500 program. They do their own things.
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Old Oct 29, 2011 | 04:48 PM
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Guys if THERE was a 429 coming out it would probably be outsourced to a niche builder like Roush, Shelby, etc just like the original was built by Kar Kraft. That way Ford doesn't have to worry about CAFE, niche line production, etc

...just dreaming!
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