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the MT82 shifting issues continue at the track -VID-

Old Jul 21, 2012 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by db2797
When powershifting, you don't want the RPM's to drop too far, so you keep some torque so when you shift into the next gear you have minimal time in between shifts. 10 years ago or more, manuals were much faster than automatics because you could control the torque much more smoothly. In new automatics with torque converters, they can equal manual transmissions, so now manuals have a disadvantage on the track or in performance driving, thus you want to do everything you can to shorten the amount of time you have shifting along with trying not to lose boost.

Now, with any clutch there's always "play" where the clutch engages. You actually don't need to be 100% pressed to the floor to have the clutch engage. But at high RPM's, a weak clutch like in these cars is not going to be able to support and stay engaged at high RPM's. It's ridiculous how weak these clutches are though. Although it may not entirely be the clutch. There's probably a few weak links in the chain that Ford did for whatever reason. Probably a combination of making the transmission "mushy" for everyday drivers and cutting down on cost at the same time. The problem though is they destroyed the performance aspect of the car by taking that direction. So while many of the everyday granny shifting drivers might not necessarily see those weak points, those who do performance driving will have these problems crippling the ability to drive the car at a high level. It really sucks.
I'd say that you've made a good point. The clutch is not race grade, and not optimal for every performance driver. Imagine that Ford supplied a six puck ceramic clutch or something similar on every Mustang 5.0 that's sold.... I think we would see this conversation go in another direction; sorta like "this clutch is to touchy" or the pedal effort is too high -- this car is too hard to drive on the street or in traffic.

How many first time drivers see **400hp** and go out and buy the car not having much experience driving a manual transmission? How would they fare driving a finicky hair triggered car? I think the factory had to find a middle ground for the majority of daily drivers.

I've seen cars go through their evolution -- from building full-bodied boats into 11 second race cars. Now you can get a decent car for a decent price that will turn high to mid 12 sec. in the quarter mile - i dont think thats too bad of a trade off.

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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Flagstang

so you simply do not read the auto threads that talk about the issues with it.
Get the shift points set correctly with a proper tune and there's no issues
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 09:16 PM
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I run mine at the drag strip many times and had issues getting into 3rd at high RPMs, but after MGW, never had a issue since, here's a video of me at track and I've never power shifted in my life, and frankly I'm afraid to try.


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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 02:54 AM
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Issue solved?

[QUOTE=BOSS302R;6392283]feel like a noob at the track, ford needs to do something about this

Have you been able to completely solve your shifting issue? I'm experiencing the same thing.
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