Max HP on the 3.7 engine
10/29/13, 12:37 AM
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You know, with 450whp, forged internals and all the right supporting mods to put the power down... It'd be such a fun car. And definitely a sleeper. Buy putting in the right clutch, driveshaft, suspension, then lighten the crap out of it and it could be pretty reliable too!
To me, fun isn't fun when you're worried the whole time.
To me, fun isn't fun when you're worried the whole time.
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10/29/13, 12:33 PM
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You know, with 450whp, forged internals and all the right supporting mods to put the power down... It'd be such a fun car. And definitely a sleeper. Buy putting in the right clutch, driveshaft, suspension, then lighten the crap out of it and it could be pretty reliable too!
To me, fun isn't fun when you're worried the whole time.
To me, fun isn't fun when you're worried the whole time.
10/31/13, 11:45 AM
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So lately been thinking how sweet a 600 rwhp 3.7 sleeper would be. I did some research and with the help of forum members knowledge I learned a company called MMR makes forged internals for the 10-14, 3.7 engine. For just under
2, 000 dollars one can buy a fully forged crankshaft, pistons, rods, hardware included and its designed to hold 1200 rwhp.
What is the approximate maximum amount of safe rwhp can the 3.7 engine hold with forged internal engine parts such as the ones mentioned above? If one purchased a procharger supercharger and set that boost for say 20 pounds, can the engine safely handle that having those forged internals?
2, 000 dollars one can buy a fully forged crankshaft, pistons, rods, hardware included and its designed to hold 1200 rwhp.
What is the approximate maximum amount of safe rwhp can the 3.7 engine hold with forged internal engine parts such as the ones mentioned above? If one purchased a procharger supercharger and set that boost for say 20 pounds, can the engine safely handle that having those forged internals?
10/31/13, 08:56 PM
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Lol. Yeah, I think the best is to keep it under 450 rwhp for the 3.7 and my stock engine will be fine. I would be elated with 435 rwhp. As I'm learning getting fully forged internals is just too much of a cost for what I want too spend. lol
10/31/13, 09:22 PM
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So really the best option, safest and best idea for more of a long term DD, would be to go with the Hellion turbo kit at 5psi, which will put you around 425rwhp?
10/31/13, 09:50 PM
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Or the pro charger supercharger, set for 8 psi which makes around 425 rwhp and call it a day. Its my understanding the supercharger is easier and way less involved. There is way more involved to a turbo set up comparied to supercharger set up. Especially if you have long tubes, you can't connect the hellion turbo onto it.
10/31/13, 11:08 PM
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This is what I have.
I have the V6 with long-tube headers, hi-flow catted X-Pipe, BBK throttle body, Magnaflow catback and the procharger on the Procharger tune.
So it's probably around 430-440 RWHP I'd guess. This is my daily driver and I drive a lot. I have a 5.0 in my garage that is mainly my track car. On my V6 I get fantastic gas mileage. I've driven about 15,000 miles on the procharger. My v6 has about 65,000 miles on it total.
Procharger doesn't recommend their canned tune with the mods I have. But honestly, I trust that tune more than any dyno tune. I feel you're more likely to blow your engine on some aggressive dyno tune. I was worried at first and babied it. Not any more. I've probably been in boost 150 times. I drive the snot out of that car when I want to have fun and I don't worry about it at all. I'm comfortable with the reliability with what I have.
I love my v8 and it's torque and the rumble of the V8. But I also love that winding sound that the supercharger along with the v6 and it's exhaust has. It's not the "powerful" low end sound of the V8, but more of a wind of a jet airliner (obviously not that loud
) Also it's a lot of fun when the boost kicks in. It's funny because when I'm in second gear and I have traction and am accelerating hard, at about 3500 RPM's when the boost kicks in, my tires will start spinning. So that's definitely a fun experience just feeling how the boost works.
So anyways...I'm sure you could reliably get more power than what I have, but for long term reliability, I think the setup I have would last you a long time. Or I should say my motor is very comfortable with this setup.
I have the V6 with long-tube headers, hi-flow catted X-Pipe, BBK throttle body, Magnaflow catback and the procharger on the Procharger tune.
So it's probably around 430-440 RWHP I'd guess. This is my daily driver and I drive a lot. I have a 5.0 in my garage that is mainly my track car. On my V6 I get fantastic gas mileage. I've driven about 15,000 miles on the procharger. My v6 has about 65,000 miles on it total.
Procharger doesn't recommend their canned tune with the mods I have. But honestly, I trust that tune more than any dyno tune. I feel you're more likely to blow your engine on some aggressive dyno tune. I was worried at first and babied it. Not any more. I've probably been in boost 150 times. I drive the snot out of that car when I want to have fun and I don't worry about it at all. I'm comfortable with the reliability with what I have.
I love my v8 and it's torque and the rumble of the V8. But I also love that winding sound that the supercharger along with the v6 and it's exhaust has. It's not the "powerful" low end sound of the V8, but more of a wind of a jet airliner (obviously not that loud
) Also it's a lot of fun when the boost kicks in. It's funny because when I'm in second gear and I have traction and am accelerating hard, at about 3500 RPM's when the boost kicks in, my tires will start spinning. So that's definitely a fun experience just feeling how the boost works. So anyways...I'm sure you could reliably get more power than what I have, but for long term reliability, I think the setup I have would last you a long time. Or I should say my motor is very comfortable with this setup.
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10/31/13, 11:32 PM
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Or the pro charger supercharger, set for 8 psi which makes around 425 rwhp and call it a day. Its my understanding the supercharger is easier and way less involved. There is way more involved to a turbo set up comparied to supercharger set up. Especially if you have long tubes, you can't connect the hellion turbo onto it.
11/1/13, 07:52 AM
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I believe you are right. When I was looking at AM website a couple of weeks ago, it said 10-12 only. And that they (procharger) were in the process of making a kit for the 13-14.
11/1/13, 09:54 AM
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This is what I have.
I have the V6 with long-tube headers, hi-flow catted X-Pipe, BBK throttle body, Magnaflow catback and the procharger on the Procharger tune.
So it's probably around 430-440 RWHP I'd guess. This is my daily driver and I drive a lot. I have a 5.0 in my garage that is mainly my track car. On my V6 I get fantastic gas mileage. I've driven about 15,000 miles on the procharger. My v6 has about 65,000 miles on it total.
Procharger doesn't recommend their canned tune with the mods I have. But honestly, I trust that tune more than any dyno tune. I feel you're more likely to blow your engine on some aggressive dyno tune. I was worried at first and babied it. Not any more. I've probably been in boost 150 times. I drive the snot out of that car when I want to have fun and I don't worry about it at all. I'm comfortable with the reliability with what I have.
I love my v8 and it's torque and the rumble of the V8. But I also love that winding sound that the supercharger along with the v6 and it's exhaust has. It's not the "powerful" low end sound of the V8, but more of a wind of a jet airliner (obviously not that loud ) Also it's a lot of fun when the boost kicks in. It's funny because when I'm in second gear and I have traction and am accelerating hard, at about 3500 RPM's when the boost kicks in, my tires will start spinning. So that's definitely a fun experience just feeling how the boost works.
So anyways...I'm sure you could reliably get more power than what I have, but for long term reliability, I think the setup I have would last you a long time. Or I should say my motor is very comfortable with this setup.
I have the V6 with long-tube headers, hi-flow catted X-Pipe, BBK throttle body, Magnaflow catback and the procharger on the Procharger tune.
So it's probably around 430-440 RWHP I'd guess. This is my daily driver and I drive a lot. I have a 5.0 in my garage that is mainly my track car. On my V6 I get fantastic gas mileage. I've driven about 15,000 miles on the procharger. My v6 has about 65,000 miles on it total.
Procharger doesn't recommend their canned tune with the mods I have. But honestly, I trust that tune more than any dyno tune. I feel you're more likely to blow your engine on some aggressive dyno tune. I was worried at first and babied it. Not any more. I've probably been in boost 150 times. I drive the snot out of that car when I want to have fun and I don't worry about it at all. I'm comfortable with the reliability with what I have.
I love my v8 and it's torque and the rumble of the V8. But I also love that winding sound that the supercharger along with the v6 and it's exhaust has. It's not the "powerful" low end sound of the V8, but more of a wind of a jet airliner (obviously not that loud
) Also it's a lot of fun when the boost kicks in. It's funny because when I'm in second gear and I have traction and am accelerating hard, at about 3500 RPM's when the boost kicks in, my tires will start spinning. So that's definitely a fun experience just feeling how the boost works.So anyways...I'm sure you could reliably get more power than what I have, but for long term reliability, I think the setup I have would last you a long time. Or I should say my motor is very comfortable with this setup.
Your the only person I have heard say they don't trust any dyno tunes. Any reputable performance shop will not over aggressively tune your car if you don't want that type of aggressive tune. A reputable performance shop will do the tune perfect using a dyno and diagnostic of your specific car. Just my 2 cents. I would get a dyno tune done if I were to supercharge mine.
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With a supercharger you can easily walk on a stock GT and even a 5.0 with a tune and cai. What I'm wondering is how much hp I will make with the other mods I will already have. Like headers, full cat-back, port & polish upper and lower and throttle body. I probably won't do gears b/c I hear 3.73 can be to much with a supercharger. I already have 3.31 so I might just stick with that.
11/1/13, 08:00 PM
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With a supercharger you can easily walk on a stock GT and even a 5.0 with a tune and cai. What I'm wondering is how much hp I will make with the other mods I will already have. Like headers, full cat-back, port & polish upper and lower and throttle body. I probably won't do gears b/c I hear 3.73 can be to much with a supercharger. I already have 3.31 so I might just stick with that.