UnrealFord

The Ford Trackey Idle doesn't kick in until the Cats are warm to burn extra fuel, by removing the cats a more pronounced idle can be developed.

AMDanBailer

I mean, Technically you can run cats. However with the extra valve over lap that gives you the lopey idle will allow a lot of un burnt fuel to pass through the exhaust. This will get clogged up in your cats and over time it will either completely clog your cats or burn them out!

I hope this helps!

-Dan

SteedaBrandon

We do not require the removal of the cats with our cam tunes. We have not seen any premature wearing of the cats in our own testing.

Tron84

O.....K...... better safe than sorry

stang8psi

don't fool yourself .... sales gimicks are just that!!! Remove the cats because they will burn up! You are new to the cam tune steeda and I am sure you will have people calling you and complaining in the near future because of your claims of "stock cats will be fine, don't worry about that burning smell coming out of your exhaust"

SteedaBrandon

Really? This again?

Nocturnal'14

Let me start off by saying I am not trying to be a hater here.....
I never understood this fad of "Fake Cams" with a tune (Sounds retarded IMHO anyways).....either get real cams installed $$$ or get a normal tune.

Sorry to p!ss anyone off.....but it's Just my $.02

P.S> cant wrap my head around this "Blackout Roof" Fad either, it looks terrible!!!
To each their own I guess.

65sohc

I look at it from the opposite end. Any conventional engine that revs to 8000 is going to have a much rougher idle than the 5.0, and at about 1200 just to keep running. If anything the stock Coyote has a "fake" smooth idle by virtue of the VVT.

Tron84

I think the answer is very simple, the same reason that people install actual cams, sound and power.

The sound part is pretty obvious, i think a lot of people without an experienced ear wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a cam tune and an engine with lopey cams.

As for the power, yea you're not gaining as much as you would with cams, but you HAVE made gains since you are running a performance tune.


So there you have it, sound and power.

Now if one of the tuners could get down the driveability part of it it's actually not a bad deal for the relatively little money involved.

That's my 2 cents on it.

UnrealFord

I wanted to reply to this a few days ago, but it looks like some people touched the subject already.
Basically isnt this no different then when people swap out mufflers? It doesnt add any sdditional power in most cases but you do it because you enjoy the sound
.Well loopy idle tunes are no different, its for the sound.

going for broke

Exactly. A not so short time ago max revs on a stock v-8 were 5k or so. Now they are spinning them to 7-8k a smooth idle wouldn't be possible without vvt

AMDanBailer

This is a perfect example. The Ghost Cam is strictly for sound once you tap the gas or pull away your tunes back to its regular characteristics. Cam's are a really expensive mod and job, Obviously we all want more power but lets be honest the sound of a Rowdy idle in a Mustang is unbelievable!

This file is free for all of our free tunes for life members so if it's not for you it doesn't cost anything additional! I hope this helps clear things up let me know if you guys have any questions.

-Dan

stang8psi

99-01 cobras rev limit 7000.. ford just got smart and it took 12 years to be able to make them tivct! Ford motor company the last to figgure out how to do it on a v8. lol

MyStang2010GB

my 2012 Boss 302 came with the Blackout Roof from the factory and it looked fantastic.....

Nocturnal'14

Lopey idle sounds horrible In my opinion...thats all Im saying. I cant figure out why people want their car to sound ridiculous. Its much like putting a fart can on a honda.

As for the Blacked out roof looking fantastic...I DISAGREE fully here sir. Im not trying to be mean here, just speaking my opinion. The picture posted above would look much better if the black on the hood flowed into the black on the roof (Same width) but as it is the whole roof is done and a slight portion of the hood....NOW, If the whole hood and top of trunk was blacked out then it would make sense to me.

Let me admit that I am sure there are things I have done/will do to my car that others will not like. Fine with me, to each their own. Just don't expect everyone to like the Lopey tunes or blackout roofs. Cause they don't!

MyStang2010GB

Now that would look like crap....IMO

TheDivaDanielle

I'll go out again and say that Bama has been amazingly enthusiastic about working with me. At this point my standard idle tunes are strong and surge free with my JLT, and with each new tune for the cam tune, they seem to be dialing it in more and more. Nearly there on the cam tune, but my fiancée can't seem to work well with the different characteristics, and is continuously stalling it out.

UnrealFord

These are all the reasons why the Mustang community is fun and interesting. When I see another Boss I look forward to seeing something unique, even if its not my taste.
Attending Carlisle and Mustang Week you see soo many Mustangs of the same years but barely ever see the identical 2.

Planeswalker

Does your fiancée drive with the A/C on? My wife had some issues with our Steeda cam tune stalling at stops. Finally realized when I drive the car I tend to roll down the windows and turn off the radio and just enjoy the sound of the car. My wife drives the Roush alot more than me so she naturally drives sometimes with the A/C on. After realizing this I tested it out and found that it's only when the A/C is that it has any issues, perfect with A/C off! I have to heel/toe the brake/gas every now and then with the A/C running, not a big deal for me.

Drive the car with A/C off and see if she has issues still.

TheDivaDanielle

No, not the AC, it's an odd thing.


Newest revision went the wrong direction too for the cam tune. I have a feeling sooner or later we need to start data logging, instead of just trying out stuff.