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Old 11/15/12, 08:58 AM
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What Intake/Tune????


I am thinking about ordering an intake and programmer, but am unsure what tune to go with. I am interested in a ghost cam tune. Who has the least problems with their tunes? Also, what would be the best intake?
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Originally Posted by 25bduse

I am thinking about ordering an intake and programmer, but am unsure what tune to go with. I am interested in a ghost cam tune. Who has the least problems with their tunes? Also, what would be the best intake?
Steeda. All day every day. installed their cai and 93 tune at 1,000 miles and now have 15,500. Couldn't be stronger.
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Steeda. All day every day. installed their cai and 93 tune at 1,000 miles and now have 15,500. Couldn't be stronger.

Thanks for the help. Do you know anything about the ghost cam tune?
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I would go with Lund, I've used their tune amongst others and have had the best success with them. Tunes will be opinion based so say them with a grain of salt. Like I've said, I personally would pick Lund, I've had experienced with a myriad of tuners to include lots of dyno tuning. Lund's tunes are a little more. If you have any questions at all just let me know and I'll do my best to help you out.
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I have my eye on the airaid/sct bama tune package from AM. What do you guys think? Also, will I be able to aquire the cam tune?
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Check out our Steeda CAI and SCT X3 tuner with Steeda custom tuning Power Pak: http://www.steeda.com/store/steeda-p...d-mustang.html

Let me know if I can help you with that.

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Steeda. All day every day. installed their cai and 93 tune at 1,000 miles and now have 15,500. Couldn't be stronger.
Thanks for the Steeda props!
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Do you have an automatic or manual?

You can take a look at this video to get some feedback

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=fvlzNmKwRQY

Feel free to check the boards, our manual cam tune has had some great reviews.

The cam tune is a complete separate tune. When you order the tuner it would be an additional $90 for the cam tune.

PM If i can help you out with pricing or answer any other questions?

Best Regards,

TJ

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Originally Posted by tj@steeda
Do you have an automatic or manual?

You can take a look at this video to get some feedback

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=fvlzNmKwRQY

Feel free to check the boards, our manual cam tune has had some great reviews.

The cam tune is a complete separate tune. When you order the tuner it would be an additional $60 for the cam tune.

PM If i can help you out with pricing or answer any other questions?

Best Regards,

TJ
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Originally Posted by 25bduse

Manual
AED w/ JLT....but it aint cheap!
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Folks in the know (who arent specifically selling anything or who haven't invested their money and hopes) are saying that the CAI is not a good use of your modding dollars.

Tune and put the $300+ you saved into tires or your car loan...the stock intake is turning out to be just fine.

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Originally Posted by MRGTX
Folks in the know (who arent specifically selling anything or who haven't invested their money and hopes) are saying that the CAI is not a good use of your modding dollars.

Tune and put the $300+ you saved into tires or your car loan...the stock intake is turning out to be just fine.
I have attached a dyno sheet that was a test we did about a year and a half ago of the stock airbox vs the cold air on a 5.0.

On this test the car was loaded with a basic tune with no cam timing changes just so we could have a higher rev limiter that way we could rev the engine to the same RPM with both intakes without running into a limiter. Ignition timing was the same for both tunes.

The results show a “peak” gain of only 5 horsepower, but there is a lot more there if you read the dyno sheet. Gains started at about 4,500, with gains of 6 to 9 horsepower between 4,500 and 5,000. Between 5,300 and 6,100 gains were 7 to 10 horsepower. And between 6,700 and 7,200 the gains were an impressive 12 to 15 horsepower. So you can see measurable gains from a cold air intake.

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On a dyno with the hood open? That's hardly a real world comparison now is it?
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Originally Posted by SteedaBrandon
I have attached a dyno sheet that was a test we did about a year and a half ago of the stock airbox vs the cold air on a 5.0.

On this test the car was loaded with a basic tune with no cam timing changes just so we could have a higher rev limiter that way we could rev the engine to the same RPM with both intakes without running into a limiter. Ignition timing was the same for both tunes.

The results show a “peak” gain of only 5 horsepower, but there is a lot more there if you read the dyno sheet. Gains started at about 4,500, with gains of 6 to 9 horsepower between 4,500 and 5,000. Between 5,300 and 6,100 gains were 7 to 10 horsepower. And between 6,700 and 7,200 the gains were an impressive 12 to 15 horsepower. So you can see measurable gains from a cold air intake.

No offense intended, Brandon, but you guys are selling these things so your data doesnt really count. We have no idea what the tunes really looked like, how many pulls it took to get this favorable comparison, if the hood was opened or closed, etc. we just have to assume that what you're showing us is the "best case scenario.".

Word on the street (and the strip) is that 95% of the improvement is from the tune alone...so the $300+ on the intake isnt money well spent.

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Stock airbox on my '11 5.0L and I'm making good power with just a tune (409 rwhp). I've considered installing the Steeda CAI on my car and probably will at some point. The money for a CAI is only worth it to me from an aesthetics point of view, and I believe a lot of people buy them for that reason. Just like the GT500 axlebacks I put on my car; I didn't buy them for power gains - I like how they sound. Not every mod on a car has to yield a performance gain for it to be worthwhile to some folks.

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FWIW the chief Ford engineer told Jay Leno that you can't get any performance improvement by changing the CAI. See starting @ 4:40. So is that true?

http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/cars/f...02/index.shtml
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On a basically stock car you won't get much more performance than axles backs bc the CAI isn't a huge restriction. But if you plan on more mods down the road and can get the tuner and CAI for a package then I'd say go for it. Because once you start more mods, then the stock CAI is a restriction.
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Originally Posted by conv_stang
On a basically stock car you won't get much more performance than axles backs bc the CAI isn't a huge restriction. But if you plan on more mods down the road and can get the tuner and CAI for a package then I'd say go for it. Because once you start more mods, then the stock CAI is a restriction.
No it's not. Got any proof of this statement?
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Originally Posted by GrabberBlue5.0
No it's not. Got any proof of this statement?
Do you have any to report other wise? Been plenty of articles shown where aftermarket CAI increases power on highly modified or boosted cars. Has held true on every mustang since they added fuel injection. Same with the throttle body. Which is why they do not gain much power stock
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Originally Posted by conv_stang
Do you have any to report other wise? Been plenty of articles shown where aftermarket CAI increases power on highly modified or boosted cars.
So you're basing this on reading magazine articles LOL. And yes I have done my own testing /data logging and picked up zero power from my CAI. Put the stock one back in.


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