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Old 5/12/10, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ManEHawke
If the MAF housing is left stock diameter, the PCM can adjust fuel trims. But they don't mention the MAF diamater.
So if I run a wide open tube with no filter, the PCM can adjust vs choking it down with a filter? And/or different flow rate filters??
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Old 5/12/10, 11:02 PM
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Yes! The MAF is cooled by the air, and more voltage is sent to the wire to heat it. A clogged filter won't flow, thus wont cool the wire as wide open.
the PCM references how much voltage is sent to the MAF to know how much air is coming in.
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Thanx!
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Yea, good stuff to know.
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Originally Posted by ManEHawke
If the MAF housing is left stock diameter, the PCM can adjust fuel trims. But they don't mention the MAF diamater.
screw that. i want a 100+mm maf and 4" tubing.
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You don't need anything that big.
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You don't need anything that big.
you dont know what i need. i'll decide that. im not a noob.
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Old 5/13/10, 10:52 AM
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But don't you get to the point where the intake & ports are at max flow regardless how large the intake tube is?
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Old 5/13/10, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by assasinator
you dont know what i need. i'll decide that. im not a noob.
LOL. I did not intend to come off as a "know it all", though I'll stick by my statement.

But its your car, your money, etc. Knock yourself out!
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I'd prefer 200mm and 8" tubing.
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I say BS on the power gains with no tune. Plus how exactly is that pulling in air from outside of the engine bay. It's blocking incoming air flow with the heat shield.
+1 I don't see any way this design is getting any cool air.
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I think they wanted to get it out there fast. It's no better than a K&N or BBK no tune cai...
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I will post up an unbiased back to back test of this unit very soon. I ordered it direct from their website this evening and I have no affiliation with MMR.

I will be in Indiana tuning next week but when I get back the CAI should be here and I will test it right away.

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I still think it would flow better with more straight tubing in front of the throttle body before the turn.
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Originally Posted by JJ@WMS
I will post up an unbiased back to back test of this unit very soon. I ordered it direct from their website this evening and I have no affiliation with MMR.

I will be in Indiana tuning next week but when I get back the CAI should be here and I will test it right away.

JJ
I'm interested to see how this unit pans out given the claims by the manufacturer.
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I'd prefer 200mm and 8" tubing.
Screw that ***** pansy-*** ****. I'm getting a 600mm MAF and 24" tubing.
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Screw that ***** pansy-*** ****. I'm getting a 600mm MAF and 24" tubing.
I'm pulling the heads off so the pistons can get the best possible flow.
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Old 5/15/10, 01:06 AM
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I'm pulling the heads off so the pistons can get the best possible flow.
Oh yeah? Well I'm mounting the engine to the front bumper for the ram-air effect!
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Good approach
Originally Posted by JJ@WMS
I will post up an unbiased back to back test of this unit very soon. I ordered it direct from their website this evening and I have no affiliation with MMR.

I will be in Indiana tuning next week but when I get back the CAI should be here and I will test it right away.

JJ
I like the way you are handling all the mods and tuning, people will spend plenty of money on their cars especially if the data is accurate and nice improvements are made i.e real world gains etc... thanks
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Our car will be here soon and I will (as always) post up dyno graphs of all testing INCLUDING A/F readings.
MMR, why not post up a/f readings and dyno graphs??????
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