Modular Mustang Racing (MMR) - New 5.0 CAI

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May 12, 2010 | 10:57 PM

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cdynaco

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Originally Posted by ManEHawke

If the MAF housing is left stock diameter, the PCM can adjust fuel trims. But they don't mention the MAF diamater.

So if I run a wide open tube with no filter, the PCM can adjust vs choking it down with a filter? And/or different flow rate filters??

May 12, 2010 | 11:02 PM

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ManEHawke

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Yes! The MAF is cooled by the air, and more voltage is sent to the wire to heat it. A clogged filter won't flow, thus wont cool the wire as wide open.
the PCM references how much voltage is sent to the MAF to know how much air is coming in.

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May 12, 2010 | 11:09 PM

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cdynaco

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Thanx!

May 13, 2010 | 03:33 AM

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WaltM

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Yea, good stuff to know.

May 13, 2010 | 06:17 AM

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assasinator

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ManEHawke

If the MAF housing is left stock diameter, the PCM can adjust fuel trims. But they don't mention the MAF diamater.

screw that. i want a 100+mm maf and 4" tubing.

May 13, 2010 | 09:09 AM

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BLKCLOUD

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You don't need anything that big.

May 13, 2010 | 10:47 AM

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assasinator

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Originally Posted by BLKCLOUD

You don't need anything that big.

you dont know what i need. i'll decide that. im not a noob.

May 13, 2010 | 10:52 AM

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cdynaco

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But don't you get to the point where the intake & ports are at max flow regardless how large the intake tube is?

May 13, 2010 | 11:19 AM

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BLKCLOUD

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Originally Posted by assasinator

you dont know what i need. i'll decide that. im not a noob.

LOL. I did not intend to come off as a "know it all", though I'll stick by my statement.

But its your car, your money, etc. Knock yourself out!

May 13, 2010 | 11:52 AM

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Adam

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I'd prefer 200mm and 8" tubing.

May 13, 2010 | 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bpmurr

I say BS on the power gains with no tune. Plus how exactly is that pulling in air from outside of the engine bay. It's blocking incoming air flow with the heat shield.

+1 I don't see any way this design is getting any cool air.

May 13, 2010 | 07:56 PM

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WaltM

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I think they wanted to get it out there fast. It's no better than a K&N or BBK no tune cai...

May 13, 2010 | 08:11 PM

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JJ@WMS

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I will post up an unbiased back to back test of this unit very soon. I ordered it direct from their website this evening and I have no affiliation with MMR.

I will be in Indiana tuning next week but when I get back the CAI should be here and I will test it right away.

JJ

May 13, 2010 | 08:47 PM

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Ltngdrvr

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I still think it would flow better with more straight tubing in front of the throttle body before the turn.

May 13, 2010 | 09:54 PM

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bpmurr

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Originally Posted by JJ@WMS

I'm interested to see how this unit pans out given the claims by the manufacturer.

May 14, 2010 | 02:59 AM

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hawkeye18

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Originally Posted by Adam2004

I'd prefer 200mm and 8" tubing.

Screw that ***** pansy-*** ****. I'm getting a 600mm MAF and 24" tubing.

May 14, 2010 | 04:25 AM

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PTRocks

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Originally Posted by hawkeye18

Screw that ***** pansy-*** ****. I'm getting a 600mm MAF and 24" tubing.

I'm pulling the heads off so the pistons can get the best possible flow.

May 15, 2010 | 01:06 AM

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hawkeye18

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I'm pulling the heads off so the pistons can get the best possible flow.

Oh yeah? Well I'm mounting the engine to the front bumper for the ram-air effect!

May 15, 2010 | 01:52 PM

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Good approach

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Originally Posted by JJ@WMS

I like the way you are handling all the mods and tuning, people will spend plenty of money on their cars especially if the data is accurate and nice improvements are made i.e real world gains etc... thanks

May 18, 2010 | 05:19 PM

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Tucker

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Our car will be here soon and I will (as always) post up dyno graphs of all testing INCLUDING A/F readings.
MMR, why not post up a/f readings and dyno graphs??????

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