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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 11:09 AM
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Going sideways on WOT

I just upgraded a few things and got my 2014 Mustang GT tuned. Now from a stop if I apply full throttle my car starts going sideways and 1-2 and 2-3 shifts turn my car almost 45 degrees from the rear end.

I have done a lot of research and it seems upgrading my LCA would help fix this?

Looking for suggestions/advise.

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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 11:25 AM
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whats the issue??
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 11:28 AM
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How much power does your car put down? Also what size/compound tires are you using on the back? It's not unusual to loose grip on rear wheels while at WOT. The Coyote is a free revving motor, and quite high on torque output. This generally is not a bad thing (I love going sideways too ).
But if you're trying to harness the power a bit better I would think a beefed up panhard bar and some stickier rubber would help plant the rear axle a bit more.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 11:28 AM
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Better tires helps too. The geometry of the rear end as it squats will slightly shift the rear end. I would try better tires first.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ShaneGT
whats the issue??
Lol, exactly!
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER
How much power does your car put down? Also what size/compound tires are you using on the back? It's not unusual to loose grip on rear wheels while at WOT. The Coyote is a free revving motor, and quite high on torque output. This generally is not a bad thing (I love going sideways too ).
But if you're trying to harness the power a bit better I would think a beefed up panhard bar and some stickier rubber would help plant the rear axle a bit more.
I am going tomorrow for a few dyno pulls and will know for sure. Estimated around 450-460 with my mods and similar setups.

I like going sideways too, but a controlled sideways. I see other Mustangs with more power accelerate and they grind tires but stay straight.

So LCR would not fix the issue?
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 12:02 PM
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Just to get the no brainer out of the way, TC is off right?
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:42 PM
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One way to stop going sideways is to manage your throttle input... that and get some stickier rubber out back.

Like from a dig, I don't hammer on it until both tires are sticking. If you're going sideways into 3rd gear you must be running a stickier tire upfront or something odd.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 01:59 PM
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Just to get the no brainer out of the way, TC is off right?
TC is on. I don't turn it off much. Would that help?

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One way to stop going sideways is to manage your throttle input... that and get some stickier rubber out back.

Like from a dig, I don't hammer on it until both tires are sticking. If you're going sideways into 3rd gear you must be running a stickier tire upfront or something odd.
Stock wheels/tires 18x8 Pirellis
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Krohn
One way to stop going sideways is to manage your throttle input... that and get some stickier rubber out back.

Like from a dig, I don't hammer on it until both tires are sticking. If you're going sideways into 3rd gear you must be running a stickier tire upfront or something odd.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 02:09 PM
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Don't smash the throttle till u have traction. Or just get slicks
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by tormz
I am going tomorrow for a few dyno pulls and will know for sure. Estimated around 450-460 with my mods and similar setups.
Doubtful.

And you need a better tire.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GrabberBlue5.0
Doubtful.

And you need a better tire.
Agreed on the tires!
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 02:57 PM
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You want to hook? This is what you need.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 03:00 PM
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TC is on. I don't turn it off much. Would that help?
Yes! Always turn it off before an aggressive take off. You're probably spinning the tires. The ECU is applying brakes because it thinks you're spinning in snow/ice.

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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GrabberBlue5.0
You want to hook? This is what you need.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
Yes! Always turn it off before an aggressive take off. You're probably spinning the tires. The ECU is applying brakes because it thinks you're spinning in snow/ice.
I figured TC would make the tire spin much worse.

Shows what I know.
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GrabberBlue5.0
You want to hook? This is what you need.
What is your tire/wheel setup?
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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tormz
I figured TC would make the tire spin much worse.

Shows what I know.
It momentarily adds braking on and off to the wheel it detects spinning, hoping that pause will regain stickiness to the surface.

When you have TC off it looks like this:

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Old Dec 11, 2013 | 03:27 PM
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What is your tire/wheel setup?
Weld RT-S wheels. 17x4.5 up front with a Hoosier front radial skinny and 15x10 out back with a M/T 295/55-15 drag radial.
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