Fays2 Watts Link, Koni Sports, Strano Sways, BBR LCA's installed
12/7/10, 04:09 PM
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Fays2 Watts Link, Koni Sports, Strano Sways, BBR LCA's installed
(I have posted this on a couple of forums, so if you've seen it already, my apologies.)
In getting prepared for next season's SOLO competitions, I decided I would overhaul the 5.0's suspension. Mods I had already done to it put me into ESP, so I thought I might as well go full bore with the suspension if I'm going to be running in such a competitive class (I didn't say I was going to be competitive, but I'm going to try). I've only put about 75 miles on the car since getting it all installed last night, but the ride is incredible. Now the fun part comes in tuning it all. I haven't changed the firmness on the shocks, and I'm running the front and rear sways in the middle hole right now. The Fays2 is set up almost dead center. I threw so much at the car in one day I figured I'd set it all to the middle and start tweaking individual components when time permits. I will say this, as the car sits right now, I'm very impressed with how it handles. I never thought this Mustang could corner like it does now. I'm still waiting on the Koni struts to arrive, and I've got Steeda HD strut mounts to go on it when they do arrive. The front end is definitely a little bouncy on the Steeda Sport Springs with the factory struts, but the back end is planted very nicely.
Full gallery of pics here --> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jsnyng/...th/5236104609/
360 view of the garage --> http://occip.it/pyaf7up0j
Some of the better individual pics
DSC00399 by jsnyng, on Flickr
DSC00400 by jsnyng, on Flickr
DSC00402 by jsnyng, on Flickr
DSC00404 by jsnyng, on Flickr
DSC00414 by jsnyng, on Flickr
DSC00383 by jsnyng, on Flickr
DSC00410 by jsnyng, on Flickr
In getting prepared for next season's SOLO competitions, I decided I would overhaul the 5.0's suspension. Mods I had already done to it put me into ESP, so I thought I might as well go full bore with the suspension if I'm going to be running in such a competitive class (I didn't say I was going to be competitive, but I'm going to try). I've only put about 75 miles on the car since getting it all installed last night, but the ride is incredible. Now the fun part comes in tuning it all. I haven't changed the firmness on the shocks, and I'm running the front and rear sways in the middle hole right now. The Fays2 is set up almost dead center. I threw so much at the car in one day I figured I'd set it all to the middle and start tweaking individual components when time permits. I will say this, as the car sits right now, I'm very impressed with how it handles. I never thought this Mustang could corner like it does now. I'm still waiting on the Koni struts to arrive, and I've got Steeda HD strut mounts to go on it when they do arrive. The front end is definitely a little bouncy on the Steeda Sport Springs with the factory struts, but the back end is planted very nicely.
Full gallery of pics here --> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jsnyng/...th/5236104609/
360 view of the garage --> http://occip.it/pyaf7up0j
Some of the better individual pics
DSC00399 by jsnyng, on Flickr
DSC00400 by jsnyng, on Flickr
DSC00402 by jsnyng, on Flickr
DSC00404 by jsnyng, on Flickr
DSC00414 by jsnyng, on Flickr
DSC00383 by jsnyng, on Flickr
DSC00410 by jsnyng, on Flickr
12/7/10, 04:46 PM
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No sir, they are just the standard billet LCA's. I can't imagine how bright the polished ones are. I may end up having to sell them because I found out after I put them on that they are illegal in ESP for autocross. At least they are super easy to take on/off, and I kept the OEM's. I may run them until the season starts in February and then take them off.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Finally! A good pic of the way Sam's rear adjustable bar mounts. Definitely picking one up before NASA gets going next year.
At first I thought I saw a different body link mount for the AR bar, then realized your car is red, so everything under there is red. Mine's a beautiful beige/brown...
At first I thought I saw a different body link mount for the AR bar, then realized your car is red, so everything under there is red. Mine's a beautiful beige/brown...
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Finally! A good pic of the way Sam's rear adjustable bar mounts. Definitely picking one up before NASA gets going next year.
At first I thought I saw a different body link mount for the AR bar, then realized your car is red, so everything under there is red. Mine's a beautiful beige/brown...
At first I thought I saw a different body link mount for the AR bar, then realized your car is red, so everything under there is red. Mine's a beautiful beige/brown...
12/7/10, 08:24 PM
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I heard the front bar loud about 20 minutes into my first test drive. I went HARD into a right hand turn and could hear the bushing. Since then, in about 150 miles I've heard absolutely nothing except feedback from my tires that I'm taking corners a lot faster and harder. 
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I heard the front bar loud about 20 minutes into my first test drive. I went HARD into a right hand turn and could hear the bushing. Since then, in about 150 miles I've heard absolutely nothing except feedback from my tires that I'm taking corners a lot faster and harder.
12/8/10, 10:36 AM
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Sounds as if things have settled nicely. I ask mostly because of the Fays2 Watts link. I was a little worried that NVH would be undesireable considering there are no bushings to reduce any noise transmission into the cabin. You are the second user to say that NVH has not increased.
12/8/10, 10:56 AM
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Noise has never been any kind of complaint with the Fays2. I only try and be honest and say that a bit is POSSIBLE because it does in fact use 4 rod-ends... The two I had were also pretty much silent. I will have another for my '11 next year when I change classes for SCCA Solo.
12/8/10, 06:51 PM
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I've got no NVH problems with my Fays2, more problems with the Steeda LCAs that don't seem to take grease so well.
Love that Fays2, should be OEM on all the Mustangs, or at least a factory option given its very low price for the noticeable change in performance. They should slap it on the Boss models, that'd be sweet.
Love that Fays2, should be OEM on all the Mustangs, or at least a factory option given its very low price for the noticeable change in performance. They should slap it on the Boss models, that'd be sweet.
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12/9/10, 10:12 AM
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No sir, they are just the standard billet LCA's. I can't imagine how bright the polished ones are. I may end up having to sell them because I found out after I put them on that they are illegal in ESP for autocross. At least they are super easy to take on/off, and I kept the OEM's. I may run them until the season starts in February and then take them off.
Sorry, I had to.
12/9/10, 11:01 AM
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Without searching, can anyone tell me if there is a specific 2010+ 5.0L Mustang ESP preparation thread? or ESP S-197 thread? The more I search, the more it seems that ESP specific mod's are scattered over individual car owner threads instead of a type of sticky thread for all potential ESP competiters. I think this thread (jsnyng) would be a good start for one. Same goes for FS, any out there? Maybe Sam can take everyone through his ESP build from start to end and into competition.
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I'd recommend any potential autocrossers to just get in contact with me (AND GET A RULEBOOK!), I'm happy to discuss setup options for various classes. And I'll be honest, I find that when I do put things down on paper folks have been known to take the information I've worked hard to build and then go price shopping... That's ok to an extent, but when folks are nit-picking $5 here and there it's frustrating and I find that it's just smarter for me to protect my knowledge a bit by not putting every detail into cyberspace.
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I'm not much of a blogger... I am gathering parts to make the jump, but not started putting many on because it's freaking cold here. And I'm busy and have to make time to do it.
I'd recommend any potential autocrossers to just get in contact with me (AND GET A RULEBOOK!), I'm happy to discuss setup options for various classes. And I'll be honest, I find that when I do put things down on paper folks have been known to take the information I've worked hard to build and then go price shopping... That's ok to an extent, but when folks are nit-picking $5 here and there it's frustrating and I find that it's just smarter for me to protect my knowledge a bit by not putting every detail into cyberspace.
I'd recommend any potential autocrossers to just get in contact with me (AND GET A RULEBOOK!), I'm happy to discuss setup options for various classes. And I'll be honest, I find that when I do put things down on paper folks have been known to take the information I've worked hard to build and then go price shopping... That's ok to an extent, but when folks are nit-picking $5 here and there it's frustrating and I find that it's just smarter for me to protect my knowledge a bit by not putting every detail into cyberspace.
You worry to much. I was suggesting a general ESP path, specifically bolt on parts. If you want to keep private your strut/shock damping specs, caster/camber settings, ride height, engine tuning, etc., that's entirely your call, but I think most just need a general mod list to start and then people can chime in on their personal opinions/experiences with prep. I would think, if anything, you could further promote your business and get back more out of it ($) than your giving up. Anyone attending the same events can basically see the parts you run and then post away. It's how you use the parts that give the advantage. Besides, what's the saying, 20% parts and prep, 80% Driver?
Not a critic here or a customer (yet), just trying to help newbies to the sport.
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Dave