Toyota stealing from Dodge?
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Toyota stealing from Dodge?
I figured I would post this to see if anyone here can dig up something, We all know that toyota is a cancer that has a ton of money but we really need to find out what is going on and let as many people know what they are doing!..... Here is the e-mails I have received from other club members.
"It will be interesting. Note the symbol De Lorenzo has at the bottom of his web pages, "The United States of Toyota" . . . and the Toyotas are taking over in NASCAR. I know a lot about his situation, which involved the theft of Chrysler engine technology by Toyota. I've been in the shop where it was done. Lot's of money changing hands, i.e., Toyota to NASCAR. Note the truck race at Daytona."
Peter De Lorenzo On Autoline Detroit
Peter will appear Sunday (2/17/08) on Autoline Detroit with host John
McElroy. The subject? The state of racing in the U.S. with guests Dan Davis, the chief of Ford Racing, and Mark Kent, the chief of GM Racing. The show will air at 7:00AM (EST) on SPEED and at 10:30AM (EST) on Detroit Public TV Channel 56, and again at 10:30AM (EST) on SPEED, Wednesday, 2/20. For extended coverage with additional scenes go to autolinedetroit.tv.
"It will be interesting. Note the symbol De Lorenzo has at the bottom of his web pages, "The United States of Toyota" . . . and the Toyotas are taking over in NASCAR. I know a lot about his situation, which involved the theft of Chrysler engine technology by Toyota. I've been in the shop where it was done. Lot's of money changing hands, i.e., Toyota to NASCAR. Note the truck race at Daytona."
Peter De Lorenzo On Autoline Detroit
Peter will appear Sunday (2/17/08) on Autoline Detroit with host John
McElroy. The subject? The state of racing in the U.S. with guests Dan Davis, the chief of Ford Racing, and Mark Kent, the chief of GM Racing. The show will air at 7:00AM (EST) on SPEED and at 10:30AM (EST) on Detroit Public TV Channel 56, and again at 10:30AM (EST) on SPEED, Wednesday, 2/20. For extended coverage with additional scenes go to autolinedetroit.tv.
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If memory serves I think NASCAR gave Toyota a Chevy, Dodge & Ford engine and let them have their way with incorporating the other designs into their own. The Toyota engine is based on the other 3. I am not sure if the Three had a say in the decision.
http://www.racingjunky.com/Columns-%...r%2006-009.htm
http://www.rowdy.com/content/forums/...-toyota-engine
http://www.racingjunky.com/Columns-%...r%2006-009.htm
http://www.rowdy.com/content/forums/...-toyota-engine
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All I know is it pains me now to see the 7 little Fords out there strugging for drafting partners and to generally keep up in the sea of Dodge, Chevy and now Toyota. We're definitely the minority.
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There was also a little old- fashioned design ingenuity. Early on, says David Currier, who led the seven-man design team, it became clear that NASCAR's design parameters for the valvetrain, which helps control fuel intake and exhaust, was the engine's weak link, as it was conceived to handle a modest 5,000 rpm. To circumvent NASCAR's valvetrain restrictions, TRD minimized the stroke. By shortening the distance traveled by the piston, they ended up with an engine that should spin faster than 9,000 rpm.
As for only 7 Fords in the series. Why bother with nascar at all then, might as well pull out and get more out of thier money elsewhere.
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NASCAR became a total waste of time years ago...and yet somehow they keep finding ways to make it more irrelevant every year. The ridiculous idea of parity, including the effort NASCAR put into making Toyota competitive nearly out of the box, is but one of the many decisions which have led them down that path.
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It's a shame, I used to love to watch, wait and wait for the race to come on, go to PIR and now even with 2 NASCAR events in the valley I have not gone to a race in 3 years.
Its crap anymore..
Darrel Waltrip said on windtunnel the other night that "fans" don't care which brand the driver is in they root for him any way" Is he deranged or what? I became a Ford Guy when I watched my first race Davey Allison, Bill Elliott and Allen kulwicki. I could not drive anything but the blue oval now..............
Its crap anymore..
Darrel Waltrip said on windtunnel the other night that "fans" don't care which brand the driver is in they root for him any way" Is he deranged or what? I became a Ford Guy when I watched my first race Davey Allison, Bill Elliott and Allen kulwicki. I could not drive anything but the blue oval now..............
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i miss calling it WINSTON cup..nextel jsut sounds...wussified...definatly not a nascar fan here anymore, i pay more attention to monster trucks now, at least there ford does play a role
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Yes I totally agree. It's just Entertainment now and not real racing. Everything is totally nascars judgement from race to race, infraction to infraction. I am totally burn't out on the 2-3 hour pre-race talk...talk... talk. They all think they are so smart and can talk for hours about nothing. blaaa blaaaa blaaa. Thanks I feel better now
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anyway, toyota doesn't bother me, this is by far not the first series they have ever entered and not quickly dominated. As for there ONLY being 7 fords in the field, there might have been 10 dodges, i don't even think there were that many. I was very excited to find that there was only 1 Chevy in the top ten on a plate track, thats new. I enjoyed the 500, i feel bad that ford didn't get better finishes, but i think the new car is pretty decent on track and that there will be many good races this year. Congrats to newman
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im implying the ford sponsership, you actualy see ford making an impact, to be honest, im a grave digger fan and he doesnt drive a ford, but ford is recognized with blue thunder and the BUILT FORD TOUGH logos throughout...what im saying is that nascar has gone from a sport, to just another way greedy men make money, not the drivers, the board that runs nascar..rant over
not a single engine in a monster truck is actually built by ford, i just cant get into the professional wrestling of motorsports.
anyway, toyota doesn't bother me, this is by far not the first series they have ever entered and not quickly dominated. As for there ONLY being 7 fords in the field, there might have been 10 dodges, i don't even think there were that many. I was very excited to find that there was only 1 Chevy in the top ten on a plate track, thats new. I enjoyed the 500, i feel bad that ford didn't get better finishes, but i think the new car is pretty decent on track and that there will be many good races this year. Congrats to newman
anyway, toyota doesn't bother me, this is by far not the first series they have ever entered and not quickly dominated. As for there ONLY being 7 fords in the field, there might have been 10 dodges, i don't even think there were that many. I was very excited to find that there was only 1 Chevy in the top ten on a plate track, thats new. I enjoyed the 500, i feel bad that ford didn't get better finishes, but i think the new car is pretty decent on track and that there will be many good races this year. Congrats to newman
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Your right, it's not a sport anymore. I think it all came to be for me last year when Tony Stewart stood up to NASCAR and then a week later, was a blundering idiot with apologies and crap. My thought was finally someone stood up and spoke his mind and then POW! the NASCAR money slammed the door on him..
Absolutely Pitifull....
Absolutely Pitifull....
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2) I read somewhere that next Big Foot will be Toyota, not Ford anymore.
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