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Its funny, cause these open wheel racers come to nascar and there the ones that suck! I guarantee you nascar guys can adapt and learn an open wheel car way quicker than open wheel racers adapting to stock cars
I'm sure they can. Most of those guys were redneck dirt track pros. (no offense to rednecks ) Are there dirt track ovals in Europe? I really don't see any NASCAR drivers dominating F1 courses though unless they came from F1. I think it's sad that they regulate these cars also. Let them push 250+ mph. See if they can still keep them off the wall.
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra

I'm sure they can. Most of those guys were redneck dirt track pros. (no offense to rednecks ) Are there dirt track ovals in Europe? I really don't see any NASCAR drivers dominating F1 courses though unless they came from F1. I think it's sad that they regulate these cars also. Let them push 250+ mph. See if they can still keep them off the wall.
Most nascar drivers stay out of open wheel racing (indy cars) and f-1 because clearly nascar is bigger than the both! They got a video of jeff gordon and helio castroneves swapping cars, lets just say gordons times were right with helios in the indy car, and helio driving the stock car was lost!!! Im not saying open wheel drivers suck, what i am saying is that driving a stock car is gotta be harder than driving anything else, and thats why the guys get my props
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Its funny, cause these open wheel racers come to nascar and there the ones that suck! I guarantee you nascar guys can adapt and learn an open wheel car way quicker than open wheel racers adapting to stock cars
When was the last time any NASCAR driver had any success outside the NASCAR?

Don't get me wrong, I love NASCAR, but those guys can't really drive anywhere other than NASCAR.
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Most nascar drivers stay out of open wheel racing (indy cars) and f-1 because clearly nascar is bigger than the both!
NASCAR bigger than F1?
Maybe in the USA, but there is a world outside the USA too.
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Originally Posted by sampey43

Most nascar drivers stay out of open wheel racing (indy cars) and f-1 because clearly nascar is bigger than the both! They got a video of jeff gordon and helio castroneves swapping cars, lets just say gordons times were right with helios in the indy car, and helio driving the stock car was lost!!! Im not saying open wheel drivers suck, what i am saying is that driving a stock car is gotta be harder than driving anything else, and thats why the guys get my props
They stay in NASCAR because of money. Has nothing to do with wanting to race every car you can get in. Too much sponsor money. Can't say that I blame them for getting paid to suck. Everybody's gotta price.
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Originally Posted by Synyster_Vengeance

NASCAR bigger than F1?
Maybe in the USA, but there is a world outside the USA too.
Im talkin about the united states.... Clearly where we live! Stock car racing dominates indy car racing its proof, and yes a few nascar drivers race the indy 500 and run well, im talkin about open wheel guys running a full stock car season who average finish is 31st ha ha
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Originally Posted by sampey43

Im talkin about the united states.... Clearly where we live! Stock car racing dominates indy car racing its proof, and yes a few nascar drivers race the indy 500 and run well, im talkin about open wheel guys running a full stock car season who average finish is 31st ha ha
But how many seasons have they raced? C'mon you gotta give them time. The rest of these guys have been racing it forever. But it still just turn left and no brakes. High gear ratio 700hp to only run 200 at most. :weak:
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But how many seasons have they raced? C'mon you gotta give them time. The rest of these guys have been racing it forever. But it still just turn left and no brakes. High gear ratio 700hp to only run 200 at most. :weak:
Juan pablo for example, in his 7th season, 2 wins? Cmon al... How much time do they need? And i like how you say just left turns! Lol! Al you make it sound like its a run to the grocery, come to stop sign, take a leftt and no brakes??? Watch a watkins glen race and youll see brakes, lefts right, etc. And like i said earlier, some teams bring in road course specialist for this race and still cant be nascar drivers! I think your really underestimating stock car drivers abilitys! I never said open wheel guys cant drive, i said there cars are by far easier to handle than stock cars. And for making stock cars faster, thats not gonna happen for saftey reasons! Its physics bro, its simple.... Take a curve in a mustang at 90 mph, and then try it in a f-150, let me know how it works out for ya? Ha ha!
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All I know is Monaco is this weekend, my favorite race of the season! And I can't wait until the race in Austin, tx. Will be my 3rd f1 race. Monza, Italy my first and Montreal, Canada my last. Amazing experience. Not a better sound in the world.
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The two road races those guys run does not make a season of circles acceptable. And I'm sure the road course guys they bring in have a big problem with the stock car's inferior designs anyways. Most people that I know that are into NASCAR just want to see wrecks anyways. And the rest go to races so they can look at girls flash their **** at them.

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All I know is Monaco is this weekend, my favorite race of the season! And I can't wait until the race in Austin, tx. Will be my 3rd f1 race. Monza, Italy my first and Montreal, Canada my last. Amazing experience. Not a better sound in the world.
Ive always wated to make an indy car race also! Yes i agree it does sound awesome on tv with surrond sound, can only imagine being there, love nhra also! Im a RACE FAN!! if they compete, i watch it!
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Not the road courses, the ovals. :duh: and I'd rather watch subtitled French television than NASCAR. lol
Even with the chicks with hairy pits?
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Even with the chicks with hairy pits?
Yes, even LOL
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Originally Posted by sampey43

Ive always wated to make an indy car race also! Yes i agree it does sound awesome on tv with surrond sound, can only imagine being there, love nhra also! Im a RACE FAN!! if they compete, i watch it!
If you love NASCAR, that's all that matters bro. Arguing about what is better is pointless. It's all about opinion. I love road course racing, period.
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Originally Posted by ManInABox

If you love NASCAR, that's all that matters bro. Arguing about what is better is pointless. It's all about opinion. I love road course racing, period.
I enjoy road course racing also. Im one of the few nascar fans that probably sits and watches when they run at watkins glenn, all the other guys think its boring! Like you said its all opinion and what you like
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Originally Posted by AlsCobra
The two road races those guys run does not make a season of circles acceptable. And I'm sure the road course guys they bring in have a big problem with the stock car's inferior designs anyways. Most people that I know that are into NASCAR just want to see wrecks anyways. And the rest go to races so they can look at girls flash their **** at them.
Believe it or not the road course guys they bring in know what there dealing with when driving a stock car on a road course, they like the challenge, its fun, different, and im sure the greenbacks they get helps with the decision as well
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Juan pablo for example, in his 7th season, 2 wins? Cmon al... How much time do they need? And i like how you say just left turns! Lol! Al you make it sound like its a run to the grocery, come to stop sign, take a leftt and no brakes??? Watch a watkins glen race and youll see brakes, lefts right, etc. And like i said earlier, some teams bring in road course specialist for this race and still cant be nascar drivers! I think your really underestimating stock car drivers abilitys! I never said open wheel guys cant drive, i said there cars are by far easier to handle than stock cars. And for making stock cars faster, thats not gonna happen for saftey reasons! Its physics bro, its simple.... Take a curve in a mustang at 90 mph, and then try it in a f-150, let me know how it works out for ya? Ha ha!
Well, Montoya's 2 NASCAR wins are more than any NASCAR driver got in either Indy and F1 in a really long time.

And how about Tony Stewart? When did any NASCAR regular won so many races and championships in any open wheel racing?
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Its funny, cause these open wheel racers come to nascar and there the ones that suck! I guarantee you nascar guys can adapt and learn an open wheel car way quicker than open wheel racers adapting to stock cars
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They got a video of jeff gordon and helio castroneves swapping cars, lets just say gordons times were right with helios in the indy car, and helio driving the stock car was lost!!!
I guess you guys didn't see the event from Watkins Glen, where Lewis Hamilton and Tony Stewart swapped cars? Once they got the seat adjusted so Lewis could see out of Tony's car -- he BEAT Tony's lap time in Tony's car on Tony's favorite track!

I thought it was absolutely hilarious that the Nascar drivers were complaining about having to juggle 5 radio channels, while F1 drivers make over 100 steering wheel inputs EVERY LAP, while doing a heckuvalot more than just turning left! Compare the steering wheel of an F1 car with that from a Nascar sometime.
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Originally Posted by Synyster_Vengeance

Well, Montoya's 2 NASCAR wins are more than any NASCAR driver got in either Indy and F1 in a really long time.

And how about Tony Stewart? When did any NASCAR regular won so many races and championships in any open wheel racing?
I dont get what your trying to say? Your wording is confusing.
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Tony Stewart? Former open wheel driver who switched to NASCAR and then won 46 races and 3 championships in NASCAR?

When did any NASCAR driver had such success in the open wheel racing?
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