2013 GT500 Automatic?
These cars are limited production. Ford isn't going to spend the money on a auto option for 50 car sales, when the 5000 that they do build a sold regardless. The end
Last edited by 11SHELBYGT500; Oct 26, 2011 at 08:39 PM.
Ford must build an automatic that can withstand the hp/tq of its high performance engines. It will need this transmission if it is to ever make Lincoln competitive again. So, the sooner Ford has this engine, the better. Plus, it will make the GT500 faster (the reason people want a GT500).
2007-2008 saw over 18,500 units produced- Off hand I can't find 2005, 2006, 2010, and 2011 info. But that's hardly limited. Say 50K each = $925 million.
With the ZL1 poised to sell half of the units in an auto format, you don't think demand exists? Don't be dense. They could sell another 2-3k cars a year.
As stated, Ford doesn't have to make it and invest fully into R&D. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getrag
Originally Posted by 2010MustangGT
Other than 2011 being said to have had limited production, which is debatable- no limited nameplate.
A slush-box equipped GT500 is long overdue, even if it wouldn't be my pick were I in the market. Heck, Shelby American even offered the small-block Cobra roadster with an automatic transmission, I think the GT500 can survive the shock.
[QUOTE="jsaylor"]even if it wouldn't be my pick were I in the market./QUOTE]
That's why it won't happen. I could really care less if they offered a auto, since I wouldn't buy one. While we're at it, let's throw one in the Boss too, why not? I'm sure there are some handicapable people out there that would like to drive a Boss.
That's why it won't happen. I could really care less if they offered a auto, since I wouldn't buy one. While we're at it, let's throw one in the Boss too, why not? I'm sure there are some handicapable people out there that would like to drive a Boss.
Just my two cents.
Based off what, your opinion? Cool. If 1/2 of ZL1s are researched and proposed to be auto, I would expect a rival number, hence 2-3k. One doesn't have to be smart to be logical...





Good talks.
It all goes back to giving the customer a choice
If you are not that particular customer, that's fine, there's a couple hundred million other people in this country ... the customer that wants an automatic GT500 is out there.
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If you are not that particular customer, that's fine, there's a couple hundred million other people in this country ... the customer that wants an automatic GT500 is out there.
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I want one.
Ford has had too many problems with their manual transmissions in Mustangs IMO; at this point in my life I just don't feel like dealing with a manual.
I'm pretty sure it's more realistic to sell an auto GT500 to a middle aged married guy with two kids such as myself who appreciates the convenience of not being tied to the shifter while driving than it is to all the 16 year old macho-men that need to prove something by driving a stick.
I've been there...done that....had plenty of cars with manual transmissions...had my 'fun' and now I'm over it. I don't run SCCA and an auto can take the manual in a drag race which is all I'd care about (if that).
The GT500 or even the Boss would be MORE appealing to me with a paddle shifter auto.
Ford has had too many problems with their manual transmissions in Mustangs IMO; at this point in my life I just don't feel like dealing with a manual.
I'm pretty sure it's more realistic to sell an auto GT500 to a middle aged married guy with two kids such as myself who appreciates the convenience of not being tied to the shifter while driving than it is to all the 16 year old macho-men that need to prove something by driving a stick.
I've been there...done that....had plenty of cars with manual transmissions...had my 'fun' and now I'm over it. I don't run SCCA and an auto can take the manual in a drag race which is all I'd care about (if that).
The GT500 or even the Boss would be MORE appealing to me with a paddle shifter auto.
Dont offer an auto in the Boss! Do you want it to be even that much faster than the GT500?
Last edited by phiggs54; Oct 27, 2011 at 05:27 AM.
What people don't understand is the added cost of testing and designing these components. There's a lot more than just a transmission involved in changing the drivetrain. You've gotta change wiring harnesses, interior panels, ECUs, etc. not to mention all of the tooling, development, and validation costs. The car would have to be retested by the NHTSA and re-certified in crash test ratings with a different driveline.
GM can get away with this because the CTS-V has it already done for them. With the development work already complete, the costs go down significantly. Sure, there are still new components unique to each vehicle, but in the end, they have more room to justify it than Ford does at this point. Now, if the take rate on the auto in the ZL1 is high enough, Ford might respond, but I highly, highly doubt it.
GM can get away with this because the CTS-V has it already done for them. With the development work already complete, the costs go down significantly. Sure, there are still new components unique to each vehicle, but in the end, they have more room to justify it than Ford does at this point. Now, if the take rate on the auto in the ZL1 is high enough, Ford might respond, but I highly, highly doubt it.
Originally Posted by 2010MustangGT
Because Ford loves putting limited edition on everything when they can. A serial plate documents and gives verification- It's tangible. Why wouldn't it be on there? Because a paper someone churned out, that only few know of, to which they need to scour the net sounds perfect to verify? ... Look up any 'limited edition' (a quick google below) in recent times that Ford puts out and there's a number designation somewhere on the car. It's not a must, granted but to verify count- it's desirable and has been done so numerous times in Ford's past. Especially for Shelby's and it's need to embellish.
Based off what, your opinion? Cool. If 1/2 of ZL1s are researched and proposed to be auto, I would expect a rival number, hence 2-3k. One doesn't have to be smart to be logical...
Last edited by 11SHELBYGT500; Oct 27, 2011 at 06:51 AM.
Well so far you've shown me two mustangs that were plated by ford and one of them was a 2012. The paperwork YOU find so hard to find is available to the buyers of the 500 through ford. Let's make it clear, we're not talking about people who want an auto in their 500, we're talking about people who WOULDN'T buy a 500 if there wasn't an auto in it and I'll say it again. Ford isn't going to do it for 50 sales when the current production run sells just fine. Thank you

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Originally Posted by Gabe
You really think that if the GT500 was offered with both transmissions, that only 50 per year would be sold with automatics?

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If Ford offers it, who cares? I think it would increase GT500 sales myself. That is just common sense. Having a manual only car locks out a lot of potential customers. Especially women who, by and large, insist on automatic transmissions. I don't think it would be too expensive for Ford to put an auto in the GT500 either.
Now. Would I buy a GT500 with an Auto? Hell no. I've owned a few Mustangs in my 42 years on this planet and they have all been standard trans cars. I could care less if the Auto is a bit faster at the track, I like rowing my own gears. But the option should be there for those who want it.
Now. Would I buy a GT500 with an Auto? Hell no. I've owned a few Mustangs in my 42 years on this planet and they have all been standard trans cars. I could care less if the Auto is a bit faster at the track, I like rowing my own gears. But the option should be there for those who want it.
Originally Posted by VTXFrank
If Ford offers it, who cares? I think it would increase GT500 sales myself. That is just common sense. Having a manual only car locks out a lot of potential customers. Especially women who, by and large, insist on automatic transmissions. I don't think it would be too expensive for Ford to put an auto in the GT500 either.
Now. Would I buy a GT500 with an Auto? Hell no. I've owned a few Mustangs in my 42 years on this planet and they have all been standard trans cars. I could care less if the Auto is a bit faster at the track, I like rowing my own gears. But the option should be there for those who want it.
Now. Would I buy a GT500 with an Auto? Hell no. I've owned a few Mustangs in my 42 years on this planet and they have all been standard trans cars. I could care less if the Auto is a bit faster at the track, I like rowing my own gears. But the option should be there for those who want it.
You're contradicting yourself.

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