That wasn't the norm...
but yeah where I live is about 280km north of Niagara Falls
Work is the reason I live there

The summers are nice and hot 90F-100F average(but not super humid... tonnes of trees...cottage country)
The winters used to be WAY worse... and that temp that I mentioned, was a 1 week cold snap (happened everywhere... just not as cold)
+ its right off of Georgian bay, so we get the cold air coming off the lake (or warm..depending on the currents)

Just so happens to be in the snow belt of Ontario...
Just below Barrie (20 min from me) you see a huge change in weather. Slighty higher temps (by a couple of degrees and less snow)

I don't love the cold... we didn't have snow until Jan 10th this year.
And the temp has been hovering around -5/+8Celcius

 

No prob.

The only thing I did with that, and it's easy is.

Copy and Paste in (like you did)

Space the quote properly (so its easier on the eyes)
... then highlight what you want to 'quote'

and select the button that looks like a yellow word balloon, (its above the window where your typing or editing) and it will put in the appropriate codes in front and after the highlighted text....

When you post, it'll be in that quote box.

 

Thanks I am from the south and hate the cold but moved north for the employment opportunity. Purchase a house and raised kids here so I am just stuck in this local.

 

Hope this doesn't sound like a dumb question Boomer ? but I'm not sure how to go about spacing the quote properly either so perhaps you can go walk me through as to which steps to take and thanks once again..Let's go Sabres lol.

 

Man am I glad I didn't order my GT with Ford's alarm system.

 

I haven't driven my Stang in over 14 days. The battery seemed fine with the alarm system activated all this time.

 

Like just visually....like hitting enter after a sentence to move it down.
So that all the text isn't jumbled and hard to read, and theres space between paragraphs...

 

You need to consider that in the case of police cars lot's of equipment are added to them that causes an added draw to the alternator and batteries (lights/siren/computer) that a stock Crown Vic doesn't have (unless you have the police package). I work for an ambulance service so you imagine what kind of electronics/equipment is added to the vans when they convert them to ambulances. But in our case we carry 4 batteries, and we also have an 'emergency start' switch so we can usually start the vehicle if the battery is low.

If I remember correctly the OP's car is a 2005 Mustang. It's possible that the battery simply went bad and a new one will fix the problem.
I have an 05 as well and I had to have my battery replaced at 14,000 because the car wouldn't start a couple times due to low battery.
I simply took the car in after work (too late for them to do anything), got a rental for the night/next day, and picked up the car the next day after work. Battery replaced at no cost.

 

Almost all of the stock trucks/vans and Crown Vics get Group 65 batteries regardless if they are not police applications. Aftermarket batteries in the Group 65 size usually come with 900-1000 CCAs and about 70-75 A-h capacity. The larger the capacity, the heavier and larger the battery which is probably why Ford used a smaller sized battery for the Mustang.

 

Metroplex ? I really hope this doesn't sound like a dumb question but exactly what year is your Stang ? because from reading your past posts, It seem as though you don't own a S-197 Stang as of yet or at least that's under the impression I'm assuming...

 

Why ? the Ford alarm system has nothing to do with battery failures..they use the very same alarm systems that were used in the previous generation Stang as well..The two main problems is the K.A.M keep alive memory which the computer draws current from the batteries 24/7 and the other problem is with the Motorcraft batteries themselves..

 

Thanks again, Boom

 

Rocky, thanks for all the info from the other message forum. But, I have a really tough time believing that this is "normal"...and if it is normal, then Ford has a MAJOR issue. If all of these cars are having issues, I would have suspected Ford to send out a recall/TSB on the issue.

Batteries should not die in 2 weeks of not driving the car. PERIOD. Cars sit on dealership lots for literally months at a time. Batteries dying after 2 months is a little more understood and acceptable, but not 2 weeks. And the windows/alarm seems to make no difference: when my battery died, I had the windows down slightly (to save the window motor if opened/closed to grab something) and the alarm was not set. And, the vehicles equipped with the alarm have an upgraded battery anyways

In regard to the above: I NEVER had an issue with the battery in my 2000. I replaced it after 5 years so that I wouldn't find out the hard way that it was time for the new one. And I would let that car sit for a month sometimes before driving. Also, we have had numerous other fords, with no issues.

In regard to the above quote: one of the points of having a charged battery is to not have to reset everything all the time. If I am going to hassle with disconnecting the battery, I will instead just leave a jump-box nearby and jumpstart it with that as needed, and is easier anyway.


OK, rant over, now time to determine when I will take it in to the dealer in conjuction with the some other TSB's. What do you expect, its still a Ford

 

How do you think I feel Mike ? I've been going through this crap going on almost 2 years now and after going through 3 different dealerships and even after having a field service engineer test the voltage for over 2 weeks after agreeing to leave my car at the dealership ? this is what was supposedly the diagnosis and all I can say is since I've plugged my battery into an automatic tender charger ? there have been no further battery failures.. However this still doesn't explain what the real cause or problem nor has Ford done anything to find out and it seems much more than just a coincidence that I've noticed hundereds of other Mustang owners have also complained of their batteries being completely dead in the very same 7-10 day period as mine but then again I was also able to gather from the field service engineer that a fully charged battery may be able to last up to 30 days before the K.A.M drains them..So I'm no further ahead than from where I started

 

Rocky, I hear you. I would think that Ford would have a remedy for this, as it seems to be a recurring issue.

But, if there is any consolation, I had my 2000 V6 in 3 different times throughout its 50,000 miles that I had it, due to a recurrent throw-out bearing problem. One time, I barely made it 5000 miles without it squeaking again. And, it wasn't due to me abusing it, as the car was my baby. I was getting sick and tired of it, but on the good side: I got a brand new clutch assembly two of the times (once for part cost only/no labor, the second time totally for free)

But, I hated having to have them work on the car. I was getting tired of changing out the Steeda shift **** back to the factory one (so they wouldn't mess it up trying to remove it), and I always had to put the Tri-ax handle back in the position I was used to.

By the end, I am sure that the tech's had no issues removing the pieces, since all the bolts were "worn out".

OK, back on topic: I hope everything gets worked out with you. I am just going to keep a jumpbox readily accessible, and hope to not need it too often. when I take the car in to get the fuel filler issue resolved, I will tell them about the battery too. The problem is, without a TSB, they will probably say "too bad, so sad"

 

And you would think that goin on almost 2 years later ? especially with all the complaints that I'm sure Ford has acknowledged, you would think that by now there would at least be a TSB out ? But according to Ford ? it's completely normal for a battery to be completely dead within less than a 30 day period from not being driven right ?? it's no wonder why Ford finds itself in the financial ruin there facing right now and as much as I really enjoy having my 05 ? if I had to do it all over again ? I would have held onto my 93 SVT Cobra..In the 12 years I had that car the only parts that I ever had to replace were those crappy Goodyear Eagle ZR-17 tires and the factory smog pump, other than that ? I never went through any problems at all with it...

 

Hey Guys,

I have a 2005 mustang Gt that is put away for the winter.
however part of my usual winter routine is to fire it up and let it run every week or two. the last two times i have had to jump the car to get it started. I last started it yesterday and checked it this morning a the battery is dead again. Is it possible the battery is dead already at only 2yrs old, or could something else be going on?
thanks for any opinions

 

I left my car parked while I was gone for work for almost 3 weeks. When I came back it was dead. I had left the alarm active for a previous 3 week trip so I wasn't concerned.

Took it to the dealer and they couldn't find why the battery died but it had a dead cell and they replaced it under warranty.

I know a lot of guys run a trickle charger on these cars for storage. Also, how long do you let it run. At idle it can take a while to recharge from completely dead.

 

+1 for Battery Tender

 

Mine had a dead cell at 2 years old too. It was replaced under warranty.