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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 03:42 AM
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Can't blame GM or Ford they usually don't make alternators its just the crap they buy from Mexico and other countryies, and would never defend GM.
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 04:33 PM
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hello I am new to the forum and have a 2007 Mustang GT stock with the shaker 1000 system in it. I had a charging system failure. The car died on my wife this week due to the sorry alternator Ford put in the car. I replaced it and the battery is fine, I had it tested and it was ok. I am still getting a Check Charging System Message. I had the "new" alternator tested and it said it was a bad regulator but to my knowledge the voltage regulator is not in the alternator, its computer controlled I take it. Has anyone had an issue like this? I hate to take it to my local Ford Service cause we have not seen eye to eye at all in the past. I appreciate any help anyone can give me.

Signed FRUSTRATED GTowner
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 2007MustangGT
hello I am new to the forum and have a 2007 Mustang GT stock with the shaker 1000 system in it. I had a charging system failure. The car died on my wife this week due to the sorry alternator Ford put in the car. I replaced it and the battery is fine, I had it tested and it was ok. I am still getting a Check Charging System Message. I had the "new" alternator tested and it said it was a bad regulator but to my knowledge the voltage regulator is not in the alternator, its computer controlled I take it. Has anyone had an issue like this? I hate to take it to my local Ford Service cause we have not seen eye to eye at all in the past. I appreciate any help anyone can give me.

Signed FRUSTRATED GTowner
heres a newer regulator/brush set, but it doesnt say mustang- suggest contacting them and see if they can get you the parts. I fixed the starter on our windstar for like 8 bucks with some new ford repair parts off ebay...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALTERNATOR-R...ht_2137wt_1037


edit- heres another source...need to figure out what alternator we have again...
http://alternatorstarterparts.com/in...wCat&catId=651

from what I'm reading, youre kinda right about computer controlled- the vehicle PowertrainControlModule outputs a PulseWidthModulated signal, but it still goes into a regulator in the alternator to control the field - it dont regulate to a set voltage like in the old days, now it just follows whatever the PCM tells it.
Dont have a wet floor on the passenger side do you? a lot of weird electrical gremlins seem to stem from a wet SmartJunctionBox due to plugged cowl drains...I would think the PWM line would likely be a direct wire from the underhood PCM, but still, thought I'd ask...

edit again- according to quality power alternators website ( http://www.qualitypowerauto.com/page...el_Results.php ), 2007 mustang gt uses a '6g, large frame, v mount'


Some 6g regulators are on ebay( for example: http://www.ebay.com/itm/F601HD-Brush...#ht_833wt_1270 ) , but not with the part numbers listed below, found on yet another page :

FORD Car & Lt Trk

2005 MUSTANG 4.6L V8, All
2006 MUSTANG 4.6L V8, All
2007 MUSTANG 4.6L V8, All
2008 MUSTANG 4.6L V8, All
2009 MUSTANG 4.6L V8, Manual Transmission

Replaces:

FORD
6R3Z-10346-DA,
7R3T-10300-DA, 7R3Z-10346-B,
4R3T-10300-BB, 4R3Z-10346-BB

FORD ENGINEERING
7R3T-DA, 4R3T-BB

MOTORCRAFT
GL-670, GL-920, GL-628

OEM(s): Ford
Alternator Family: Ford 6G
Voltage: 12 Volts
Amps: 135 Amps
Regulator Position: 2:00
Polarity: Negative
Output Stud Dimensions: M6-1.0
Reg. Location: Internal
Fan Location: Internal
Approximate Weight: 15.65 lbs / 7.11 kg

I'll keep digging in my spare time- I'll need one sooner or later too

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Old Nov 9, 2011 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 2007MustangGT
hello I am new to the forum and have a 2007 Mustang GT stock with the shaker 1000 system in it. I had a charging system failure. The car died on my wife this week due to the sorry alternator Ford put in the car. I replaced it and the battery is fine, I had it tested and it was ok. I am still getting a Check Charging System Message. I had the "new" alternator tested and it said it was a bad regulator but to my knowledge the voltage regulator is not in the alternator, its computer controlled I take it.
Hello 2007MustangGT,

My name is Deysha from Ford Customer Service. I recommend you make an appointment with your Ford dealer and speak with your Service Manager about this. He/She is in the best position to assist you with this concern. If you have any questions or need further assistance, please do not hesitate to PM me.

Deysha
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 01:51 PM
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Thanks alot for the help with this, it has made me want to trade my car for something else since it fried my cd player and i still haven't figured out why i get the silly charging system message... thanks again for the digging and the replies.... taking the car to be looked at tomorrow as bad as I hate to have to pay someone for something that should had been such a simple little fix... silly engineers, hope I don't step on anyones toes with that
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 02:17 PM
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WOW, I guess I'm lucky? I have a 2008 GT with the original battery and alternator. And I'll bet their are lots of GT owners like me. I don't do anything strange, like turn the radio off before shutting down. Sorry to hear some of us with problems.
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Wander
WOW, I guess I'm lucky? I have a 2008 GT with the original battery and alternator. And I'll bet their are lots of GT owners like me. I don't do anything strange, like turn the radio off before shutting down. Sorry to hear some of us with problems.
my 06 battery just died this summer, still has the original alternator... I read somewhere the alt got upgraded somewhere along the way- 07 or 08 i think, prior they seemed to have what in my opinion was a pretty high failure rate, as saw quite a few posts on various forums about alternators...usually they are pretty dead reliable these days. I recall hearing insane prices too- like >400 bucks? remember when a rebuilt alt was 20-30 bucks exchange at the local parts store?

battery failures seemed pretty high in all these cars, many posts of 2~3 yr battery failures, read many opinions about heat causing failures(why factory battery has a insulating blanket around it).
Ive had a battery last >8 yrs once in a DD, usually for me its 5 unless the car sat a lot- my lincoln sat too much, ate a battery every 2 yrs...the new schauer battery charger/conditioners sucessfully desulfated a couple that wouldnt take a charge, one kept saying 'bad bat' every day for a week, kept resetting, it did finally desulfate enough to take a charge- still using it a year later. the battery in our 65 is 9 yrs old now, but not fair to count it- only put about 2000 miles on it, and without so much as a clock, there is zero parasitic load...its sat 3 months and started right up, but usually try to run it bi-weekly.

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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 09:12 AM
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I know this is an old thread, but I am having dead batteries in my 2008 GT/CS. It has a constant 5.07 amp drain with everything off. It sits a lot as it only has 14K miles on it. No issues with either of my other two mustangs (1988 GT and 2012). The GT/CS has the shaker system so I am guessing it is the amp not shutting down. For now I am disconnecting the battery and using a battery tender.
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