09 GT500KR
#21
I'm all about capitalism - but, then, why even have a sticker price if it's of no use? I can tell you that Woody is losing far more in word of mouth sales references by doing this crap on all their special hi-per cars than they'll make by their "market adjustment" techniques.
#22
Mach 1 Member
Join Date: January 30, 2008
Location: Pacific NW USA
Posts: 721
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
short sighted dealers
Yes you are correct...
Call it what you will, these short sighted dealers aren't doing their customers or themselves any favors...
Call it what you will, these short sighted dealers aren't doing their customers or themselves any favors...
I'm all about capitalism - but, then, why even have a sticker price if it's of no use? I can tell you that Woody is losing far more in word of mouth sales references by doing this crap on all their special hi-per cars than they'll make by their "market adjustment" techniques.
#23
Cobra R Member
Join Date: January 19, 2007
Location: Huntsville, Alabama
Posts: 1,494
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
"2008 Shelby GT500 ~ ~ Black on Black Stripe Delete ~ HID's ~ Premium Trim Package She's a Driver ~ Not a Garage Queen The Most Powerful Factory Built Mustang EVER!"
Uhhhhh.....
Uhhhhh.....
#25
Shelby GT350 Member
Well, I see Hayseed beat me to the pictures. Went by this morning to see my old working partner, Jeff Parker, and to take a few pictures. Also found an another interesting car on the showroom floor, a Racecraft 420S, by Saleen.
Last edited by Redbaron93; 1/1/09 at 07:06 AM.
#26
GT Member
Join Date: January 18, 2007
Location: Ashburn VA
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I'm all about capitalism - but, then, why even have a sticker price if it's of no use? I can tell you that Woody is losing far more in word of mouth sales references by doing this crap on all their special hi-per cars than they'll make by their "market adjustment" techniques.
Sticker prices have always been worthless. Manufacture's Suggested Retail Price is just that a suggestion from Ford. I don't think Woody Anderson is hurting any seeing as they are building a new used car lot off of Hughes Rd and just bought another dealership in TN.
I am not saying they haven't done shady things in the past or that they don't play crazy dealership tricks but in this case I don't see anything wrong with putting up a very limited addition car up for auction.
#27
Shelby GT500 Member
Join Date: November 22, 2006
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 2,932
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I can't understand how dealers are allowed to mark-up. Hell if we could buy it directly from Shelby you could buy two! Pretty sick that dealers take advantage of this, maybe because some people are dumb enough to pay that price HELLO!
Jed
Jed
#28
Team Mustang Source
Join Date: June 19, 2004
Location: Phoenixville, PA
Posts: 6,840
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
I hate to use this analogy, as its been used plenty in the past, but its the same as someone who is seling their home. They had it appraised at, oh I don't know, $295K. But they put it out on the market for $335K! Its basically the same thing? Selling something for more than its worth. People don't berate the home seller for this. They are trying to get every cent they can get for it.
#29
Shelby GT350 Member
It comes down to the point that there will always be people out there with enough money and stupidity enough to pay mark ups. It happened when the '05's came out, people paid sticker, or more, just so they could be one of the first ones to have the new body style. I remember when I went Woody Anderson Ford in December of '94 to be a salesman and all the guys were telling me how all the '94 Mustangs had sold for sticker. So until we, as the buying public, decide we don't need to have the first one on the block dealerships will keep marking prices above sticker.
#31
GT Member
Join Date: January 18, 2007
Location: Ashburn VA
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It comes down to the point that there will always be people out there with enough money and stupidity enough to pay mark ups. It happened when the '05's came out, people paid sticker, or more, just so they could be one of the first ones to have the new body style. I remember when I went Woody Anderson Ford in December of '94 to be a salesman and all the guys were telling me how all the '94 Mustangs had sold for sticker. So until we, as the buying public, decide we don't need to have the first one on the block dealerships will keep marking prices above sticker.
Originally Posted by 05fordgt
I hate to use this analogy, as its been used plenty in the past, but its the same as someone who is seling their home. They had it appraised at, oh I don't know, $295K. But they put it out on the market for $335K! Its basically the same thing? Selling something for more than its worth. People don't berate the home seller for this. They are trying to get every cent they can get for it.
Last edited by shadow04GT; 9/20/08 at 07:32 AM.
#33
Mach 1 Member
Join Date: January 30, 2008
Location: Pacific NW USA
Posts: 721
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
The MOST POWERFUL FACTORY-BUILT Mustang Ever
You seem to have read my signature wrong, or you do not understand the difference between the FACTORY-BUILT 2007/2008/2009 500 Horsepower GT500, The MOST POWERFUL FACTORY-BUILT Mustang Ever, and a standard Ford "Upfitters Package" shipped out and MODIFIED by a secondary manufacture like Saleen, Roush or Shelby.
All GT500's and GT500KR's roll off Fords (FACTORY-BUILT) assembly line with the same 500 Horsepower. Once shipped to the Shelby secondary manufacture facility, the 500 Horsepower GT500 engine gets a MODIFIED (KR) tune for the additional 40 Horsepower. It may be hard for you to distinguish, but there is a big difference.
As my signature and the Ford Poster says and the GT500 with 500 Horsepower is Still
The MOST POWERFUL FACTORY-BUILT Mustang Ever.
When (or is that if) Ford, not a secondary manufacture, produces a Mustang that exceeds 500 Horsepower, I'll update my signature accordingly.
I hope I have helped you get that worked out, thank you for your concern.
All GT500's and GT500KR's roll off Fords (FACTORY-BUILT) assembly line with the same 500 Horsepower. Once shipped to the Shelby secondary manufacture facility, the 500 Horsepower GT500 engine gets a MODIFIED (KR) tune for the additional 40 Horsepower. It may be hard for you to distinguish, but there is a big difference.
As my signature and the Ford Poster says and the GT500 with 500 Horsepower is Still
The MOST POWERFUL FACTORY-BUILT Mustang Ever.
When (or is that if) Ford, not a secondary manufacture, produces a Mustang that exceeds 500 Horsepower, I'll update my signature accordingly.
I hope I have helped you get that worked out, thank you for your concern.
#34
Cobra R Member
Join Date: January 19, 2007
Location: Huntsville, Alabama
Posts: 1,494
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well, gosh.
you sure told me off.
I'm gonna go cry.
I'm gonna just take my stuff and leave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2X3vVMdh-s
you sure told me off.
I'm gonna go cry.
I'm gonna just take my stuff and leave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2X3vVMdh-s
#35
GT Member
Join Date: January 18, 2007
Location: Ashburn VA
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
A true classic
#36
Mach 1 Member
Join Date: January 30, 2008
Location: Pacific NW USA
Posts: 721
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
No need to cry, You really should get your own stuff squared away before you start worrying about other peoples stuff though...
Well, gosh.
you sure told me off.
I'm gonna go cry.
I'm gonna just take my stuff and leave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2X3vVMdh-s
you sure told me off.
I'm gonna go cry.
I'm gonna just take my stuff and leave.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2X3vVMdh-s
#37
I'm all about capitalism - but, then, why even have a sticker price if it's of no use? I can tell you that Woody is losing far more in word of mouth sales references by doing this crap on all their special hi-per cars than they'll make by their "market adjustment" techniques.
I'm squarely in Shadow's corner. Set an asking price and see who wants it. If no one raises their hand, lower the price until demand equals supply. If ten people want it, raise the price until supply equals demand.
No way I'd give big bucks for any new car. You can't buy a new classic.
And to the guy with the MOST POWERFUL FACTORY BUILT MUSTANG EVER, congratulations. Wanna race?
#38
Cobra Member
I'm squarely in Shadow's corner. Set an asking price and see who wants it. If no one raises their hand, lower the price until demand equals supply. If ten people want it, raise the price until supply equals demand.
No way I'd give big bucks for any new car. You can't buy a new classic.
#39
Team Mustang Source
Join Date: June 19, 2004
Location: Phoenixville, PA
Posts: 6,840
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
Hey Kenny, you and me both. The Ford GT is a "new classic", and suprisingly, is NOT depreciating in value at all. If you have one, and its low mileage, all original, they are actually appreciating in value. The Heritage Color (Light Blue & Orange, my favorite), are creeping over $200K again in some markets (as per the Ford GT Forum people).
#40
Oh, and the sticker on my '93 Cobra was a little over $21,000. I'll have it washed and ready for you this afternoon.
Last edited by mgreene; 9/23/08 at 07:00 AM.