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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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Why the dealer badging?

I've seen a couple of ebay Bullitts now that the dealer has applied his 'stamp' to the rear end. What the hell? On a car that is made to be free of badging other than the bullitt badge on the trunk, why in the world would a dealer throw his logo on there?
This is something that has bothered me for a long time. I don't see it so much out here in California but when I travel to the midwest and further east I see car after car with the dealer's logo stamped on the back. Is it not enough to have the dealership name around the license plate holder? I think it ruins the look of a car. Often times the dealer applied badge is a different shade of silver than the rest of the badging.
Don't know if it bothers anyone else but it blows me away to see dealers applying their badge on a vehicle with a 'badgeless theme'.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DJStang
I've seen a couple of ebay Bullitts now that the dealer has applied his 'stamp' to the rear end. What the hell? On a car that is made to be free of badging other than the bullitt badge on the trunk, why in the world would a dealer throw his logo on there?
This is something that has bothered me for a long time. I don't see it so much out here in California but when I travel to the midwest and further east I see car after car with the dealer's logo stamped on the back. Is it not enough to have the dealership name around the license plate holder? I think it ruins the look of a car. Often times the dealer applied badge is a different shade of silver than the rest of the badging.
Don't know if it bothers anyone else but it blows me away to see dealers applying their badge on a vehicle with a 'badgeless theme'.
DJ, dealers automatically add this as soon as the car is detailed for the showroom, and just for the lot (all dirty and such). If anyone wants their car to not have the logo at my store, all they have to do is ask, and its NOT put on. On Mustangs now, I tell people to not even add the license plate frame, as I have seen them actually dig into the bumper paint and leave marks.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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Nice to hear that people have an option with you. It's always bugged me. If I go to Macy's and buy a Ralph Lauren Polo shirt, I understand why the polo logo is on the shirt because they made it. Now if Macy's sewed their own name into the back of the shirt, that would be just wrong and they wouldn't sell.

I just feel it takes away from the look of the car. It's the first thing I noticed on those Bullitts.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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Well I remember in the 60's and 70's when they were made of metal and pop rivited on!!! How the hell would you like one of those!?
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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No big deal. A damp towel, hair blower, and Meguiar's cleaner wax takes care of it.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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i hate this also. every car i have bought has had it on. and i take it off the first day.

why advertise for a dealer? they have money for that, expecially after all the people they rip off every day.

if they are a good dealer they will earn their customers from me talking to people, not from someone reading it on the back of my car.

there is only one dealer i know around omaha that has earned my praise and its a SATURN dealer. most gm and ford dealers around here are crooks!!!
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Whammer
Well I remember in the 60's and 70's when they were made of metal and pop rivited on!!! How the hell would you like one of those!?
So the ones I am seeing are just plastic and glued on?
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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No big deal. A damp towel, hair blower, and Meguiar's cleaner wax takes care of it.
George,

Looks like Carroll could use that tip as well.

Send a memo to ol' Shel to wipe that **it off his face before photo time...

Looks like he's been grazing at the County Buffett again..
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by n8rfastback
i hate this also. every car i have bought has had it on. and i take it off the first day.

why advertise for a dealer? they have money for that, expecially after all the people they rip off every day.

if they are a good dealer they will earn their customers from me talking to people, not from someone reading it on the back of my car.

there is only one dealer i know around omaha that has earned my praise and its a SATURN dealer. most gm and ford dealers around here are crooks!!!
Hey Nate, just so you know, not everyone gets "ripped off at a dealer everyday" as you put it! Bryanfive-oh can attest to how little we get paid for a new car deal sold at invoice or a few hundred over (for me $75 BEFORE TAX)! And with all the dealers around us, you have to be VERY competitive with pricing!

With the availability of X-Plan to so many, ALOT of people can get this discount now and get a great deal. And FYI, you mention Saturn, as they are a "Beacon in the night" when it comes do "fair pricing"? They MAKE you pay window sticker (aka, no-haggle-pricing), just so you know!
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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George,

Looks like Carroll could use that tip as well.

Send a memo to ol' Shel to wipe that **it off his face before photo time...

Looks like he's been grazing at the County Buffett again..

looks like he has been grazing on coumadin to me, I'm surprised Amy B hasn't thought of making little plastic Shelbys that fit in your pocket and hold pills.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BULLITT INTERCEPTOR
... Send a memo to ol' Shel...
Not to worry. It's been taken care of.


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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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When i got my stang i told them If it has a dealer sticker on it when it shows up I'll refuse it and walk on the deal. They were true to thier word and kept it off
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by n8rfastback
i hate this also. every car i have bought has had it on. and i take it off the first day.

why advertise for a dealer? they have money for that, expecially after all the people they rip off every day.

if they are a good dealer they will earn their customers from me talking to people, not from someone reading it on the back of my car.

there is only one dealer i know around omaha that has earned my praise and its a SATURN dealer. most gm and ford dealers around here are crooks!!!
Have a little attitude problem, do we? Most dealers I know and have dealt with are NOT crooks. They're businessmen trying to make an honest living and keep their employees and customers happy. People have this attitude that because the dealer makes a profit that he's a crook. Do you have the slightest clue about the overhead of a car dealership? It's staggering. They make some of the slimmest margins of any retailer. How would you feel if someone branded most of the people (and you by association) in your profession a crook?
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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... Most dealers I know and have dealt with are NOT crooks...


... but would they pass a lie detector test?


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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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When I heard the Charger Daytona was coming out in TorRed, I called my friend who is a salesman at the Dodge store. I told him I wanted to order one. I made what I thought was a fair offer. He took my offer. I asked him to leave the license bracket off, the dealer sticker off, and the floor mats in their factory baggie. He did. It was a cut and dried deal and I didn't take up much of their time. When I go in for service, they treat me like a king. So many people go into a dealership with a chip on their shoulder. It doesn't have to be hard. Yeah, I know some dealerships make it hard. So shop elsewhere. You WILL find a good dealer who will treat you fairly.

When I bought my Mustang, I shopped online and found the one I wanted. By coincidence, it was local. I called the sales manager, asked him about the car, made my offer, and he accepted it. I went in that night to look at the car in person, and signed an order. I asked them to swap the deck lid for one with no spoiler, they did. I picked it up the next night. Very simple.

The key is making them an offer you can both live with. I've found that if you are reasonable, they will be as well, and will bend over backwards to make you happy. Don't expect the salesman to know a lot about the product, that is a given. Do your research, be upfront with them about what you want to do, and go from there.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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... but would they pass a lie detector test?



Yeah, it's not just the dealers but the wiseguys in the finance department.

While I can definitely understand the margins, trust me - I work my behind off for commissions as well - it doesn't take very many bad deals to sour a reputation.

Case in point? I personally know a few attorneys and I'd have little problem vouchsafing their honor any day of the week - but how's that quote go? 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name?

Which is why people like Brian-Five-Oh and 05FordGT are highly sought after - good business ethics are getting more and more difficult to find these days. Get to know the people you do business with - buy locally means more than a sappy cliche.


...and hating someone because they make money for a living is an ideal that emboldened dictators to kill close to a hundred million people in the last century alone....
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 09:54 PM
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So the ones I am seeing are just plastic and glued on?
Some are a decal, some a licence plate frame.

Believe it or not a few dealrs still add a badge that is pinned on and they have to drill holes to attach it!
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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ok first off, i didnt mean to offend anyone, as i know many on this forum work at dealerships.

i said OMAHA dealers are crooks. and mostly, yes dealers will hand you your own *** on a silver platter any day.

the very few people that pay invoice or actually get a good deal, well they get a good deal. dealerships would not stay in business if everyone got a good deal. period!

in the few car deals i have worked, i have gotten good deals, even at ford and chevy dealers, but it was thanks to my own buying skill and knowledge level. in the car business, being naive will get you screwed. the saturn dealer i worked with was the best by far, and it had nothing to do with the price. we worked a no BS deal and i walked away happy with the car i wanted. that does not happen very often with big dealers around these parts.

once again, no offense to any of you dealer guys out there, as i know good dealers are around.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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If the dealer badging is an issue, just ask them to remove it before you take delivery of the car. I've never had a dealer refuse to do it. They know that my word of mouth is much better advertising for them then their sticker.
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RCSignals
Some are a decal, some a licence plate frame.

Believe it or not a few dealrs still add a badge that is pinned on and they have to drill holes to attach it!
I believe you because some I have seen are pretty elaborate metal looking badges. On a regular mustang, are the badges on the side of the car glued on or pinned on through holes?
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