MustangFanatic

Given the recent information leaked about potential Boss Mustang engines, how about a poll to see what everyone prefers.

neil07gt

will the new boss 302 engine be an aluminum block? just curious...because the new boss 302 crate engine is an iron block http://www.fordracingparts.com/jumppages/boss.asp?x=1

theedge67

I would rather have the 4V 5.0 if it has the AL block and heads. That would be much lighter than the other versions, and with 4V still be able to make plenty of torque down low to compensate for the lack of displacement.

bossman70

Yeah, I though Ford was bringing back the OHV engine in the boss

hi5.0

Even though I can't get one, DOHC 32V Boss 302 all the way!

68 fastback

Well, it's pretty clear what we all want ;-)

Actually, what we really want is an oversquare 5.0 (spray-bore or siamesed cross-drilled), but a 5.0 stroker will do as long as it's alloy with DOHC FordGT heads forged goodies and the right cams and intake. And let's have Eagle- or Manley-H-beams because this motor must rev to at least 7K if you want my money.

Ford can put the 5.4 iron block in something else -- and hand out FRPP coupons with it for a Whipple 3.3L and drag pack discount combo.

The H/Boss351 5.8L variant is also very attractive, but not if it's the 2-valve iron truck-puppy.

Actually what I really want yesterday (just so HTT knows the real goal) is a 7.0 DOHC alloy H/Boss -- if we don't get that by MY'10 or so, "bold moves" is just rhetoric. I'm older now and tired of Ford being "almost competitive." I've bled Ford blue for 59 years -- second-fiddle is old news.

If Ford does the right thing all the 'strays' will come back to the fold in a heartbeat -- HTT don't screw this opportunity up ... think take no prisioners.

68 fastback

Has anyone noticed that the Interceptor concept uses a 5.0 mod based on the GrandAm racer?

What I think also supports the 5.0 is that if you look at the Interceptor motor, the big 500C/GT plenum intake is missing. So which one did they use? At first I thought the FRPP 4.6 intake (they offer a racing one for the 3V motor), but that won't fit a DOHC, so I think it must be the rumored 'new' intake developed for the [red-herring?] 5.4 Boss ...and the Interceptor makes 400HP on E85 -- or about 505HP on 91. I don't think they'd 150K-cert a production 5.0 at that level, but sure seems like 400-425 is emissions and CAFE realistic.

Is anyone else thinking in this vein?

-Dan

Jamo

Whatever makes the most torque they can get away with.

MustangFanatic

I would certainly believe that a Cammer built as described would be both achieveable and realistic. Yes, Dan I have been thinking the same and would definitely agree that this is an approach Ford should explore for a Boss 302 Mustang

SteelTownStang

5.0 BABY

foxhtn

5.0 AGREED. READ POST #6

MustangFanatic

+1,000,000

Black331

You'll never see a 5.0L modular engine in any Ford, because the tight bore spacing doesn't leave enough meat in the cylinder walls for a production car.

If you want a good motor, you'll just have to wait for the 5.8 Boss, the iron 5.4 is a boat anchor..

It's gonna be a long wait thuogh..

MustangFanatic

An alloy modular based 5.0L Boss Mustang certainly doesn't appear to be a possibility. While the Cammer engine could be cleaned up to pass emissions, I doubt the spray-bore technology would pass Ford's stringent durability testing. Secondarily, Ford could borrow the Saleen developed 5.0L for a Boss 302 but again it is doubtful the stroked 4.6L would pass the durability test.

As you stated, that leaves us with a 5.8L H/Boss powered Boss 351 which probably won't arrive until at least MY '10 at the earliest.

In the meantime, I still have one utopian dream left, of a new Boss 302 Mustang powered by an all alloy DOHC 5.0L gem - oversquare and smooth revving, cranking out 400 + ponies - at least such a car can exist there since Ford can't seem to figure out how to actually build one.

bob

Hearsay, nobody knows what an iron block 5.4 is capable of. Except that it would probably blow the socks off of a 5.0 cammer (by virtue of a most certianly meatier torque curve)

Anyways I'll be one of two voices that voted for a 5.4 mod motor Boss Mustang. A 5.0 cammer motor is pretty much a pipe dream and we know the Boss motors aren't going to be here anytime soon. Also with the arrival of 400hp+ Camaros and Challengers here soon, Ford needs something affordable in the 400hp+ range to help keep the faithful from switching sides.

FireFighterHill

I honestly doubt ford will make a stroker especially one with a aluminum block. If they do they are asking for problems. Its very cost prohibitive, and strokers have inherent weaknesses that the mass majority wont want to deal with.

Thats why my vote went for a iron 4v with aluminum heads. This would also give us a strong block to bore out and build up.