Just saw the times for it over on SVTPerformance. They compared it to a C6 Vette, it went 12.9 @ 112 with a 4.5 second 0-60 run. The Vette did 12.8 @ 113. Is anyone else disappointed with that time? Seing as the old SVT Cobra ran pretty much the same thing and we were promised an upgrade over it? It's not just C&D either, Road and Track did a 13.1 @ 112. I understand that they may not be able to launch the car all that well, but the 112 trapspeed disappoints me. They tested an M6 in the issue that did 12.4 @ 121 and it weighs more than the Shelby. Ah well, may be time to put in a call to Kenne Bell

 

the M6 is so quick because of the super fast high-tech transmission,
but the numbers in R&T and C&D seem little too good for me.I don't believe that M6 is faster than Vette and that much faster than GT500.

 

Wait for a test in MM&FF where the run the crap out of the car. Then again it my have the same "problem" GT's do, a torque limiting feature.

I'm more intrested in seeing what one of these things will do with CAI, pulley, exhaust and a compy tune.

 

Just further reinforces my belief that when you get past 300 hp, I would rather lose 50 pounds than gain 10 horsepower.


Of course the aforementioned CAI/pulley/exhaust/tune/DR will do the trick too.

 

I've never thought of that way. You make a very good point.

 

That's pretty slow. Not surprising, considering the car weighs in at almost 2.5 tons with a driver.

Ford, stop feeding your horses lard, ok?!

 

no im sure it'll pull off low-mid 12's stock...don't get discouraged. C&D and R&T are alwasys the slowest

 

They should still stop injecting liquid fat into the cars' fuel lines, though.

 

well...dont forget the camaro/mustang computer comparo from motor trend.....the chevys always mysteriously find a way to win....funny how that works...

 

Just wait. MT will have the GT500 in the 14s and the Challanger in the 10s.

 

I am thinking someone didn't know how to drive that GT 500. Or the engine is not making that advertised 500 horses. Something is screwed up there, because my Saleen S281 SC, has a sandbag rating of 435, probably closer to 485 and runs the 1/4 in about 12.5 at 120 so if the GT 500 has 500 I would expect a 12.1 to 12.5 time around 120-125. So I would not be discourage boys, I think who ever drove the car was lacking a bit.

 

You can rest assured that the Challenger will weigh the same if not more than the GT500. I wouldn't be surprised if the new Camaro is the same (if it ever actually makes it to production).

 

Yeah, the Challenger will be a two ton speed sled. Too far from a sports car for me.

The Mustang GT strikes a pretty good balance between straight-line muscle car and handler, but I'm afraid the GT500 will improve more in the former category than it improves in the latter--which is shifting the balance in the wrong direction IMO (granted, I realize this is a mucle car and therefore designed for people who prefer straights to curves). No one can use more than 400hp on the street, but everyone can enjoy awesome handling wherever they want (and legally too).

As far as the Camaro is concerned, the N/A pushrod LS2 is at least 200 pounds lighter than the supercharged, iron block, DOHC 5.4, so Chevy could realistically make a 400hp IRS equipped Z28 and keep the weight around 3500lb. And if they could just sell enough cars, it would be significantly cheaper than the GT500 too.

Regardless, the GT500 exists, the Camaro does not.

 

How fat are you? Are you tipping the scale at 1000 lbs.?

 

Not so much lard, rather insurance proof armor. Gotta get those whatever star ratings or insurance goes up, up and away.

 

gotta get rid of that 3.3x final gear ration. pump that up to at least 3.73

 

I weigh a bit more than 180 clothed.

Also, you guys are missing the point: The new Shelby is too **** heavy. Even the coupe has a curb weight of around 3900lbs. A Buick GS convertible with an iron-headed big block has the same curb weight.

 

I agree its to heavy but it is impossible to lower the weight and ad all those upgrades and still be as cheap as the car is.

In reality they should take follow what chevy did and stamp the mustang chassis in aluminum like the Z06 did.

 

Easier said than done, the vette is a body on frame car, so to speak. At best you could;

1. Use thinner glass.
2. use a steel shell, aluminum doors, aluminum fenders, aluminum hood, aluminum trunk, aluminum cross members, full aluminum suspension, aluminum center section on diff, composit brakes (steel disc/aluminum hat), aluminum seat frames. Reduce rigidiity by using thinner steel and less of it, but save weight
3. thinner and smaller wiring.
4. All aluminum engine with lightened components, along with aluminum or carbon fiber driveshaft. or substitute SC'd V4 V8 for 3v all aluminum V10
5. V6 interior with optional an extensive option list starting with a deleted radio, HVAC, rear window defrost, etc., along with deconteneted interior, rear seat delete, spare delete, delete sound deadening

 

why can't you just make everything thats steel in the chassis out of aluminum?