Would you buy a EcoBoost powered GT?
#22
Seems a bit ironic to call it an EcoBoost if it's going on a V8. What are you trying to mimic, the power of a V12?
I'd love to see the 2.0 EB as an entry motor for the Mustang. Make it a limited option spec car, no premium trim, similar to the Genesis coupe R-spec design, and sell it under the V6 pricing. Make it visually different than the V6 and GT. Or, as another option, have it be an optional motor like in the new Explorer, so people can get the base V6, then option "up" to the 2.0T if they choose for a fuel-economy option.
It seems like people are stuck on the names and don't want to sway from them. I wouldn't make anything with a pair of snails to go between the GT/GT500, I'd make it an entry level motor option. I think the GT500 will stick with the blower and stay away from the snails for right now. And the V8 isn't going anywhere.
I'd love to see the 2.0 EB as an entry motor for the Mustang. Make it a limited option spec car, no premium trim, similar to the Genesis coupe R-spec design, and sell it under the V6 pricing. Make it visually different than the V6 and GT. Or, as another option, have it be an optional motor like in the new Explorer, so people can get the base V6, then option "up" to the 2.0T if they choose for a fuel-economy option.
It seems like people are stuck on the names and don't want to sway from them. I wouldn't make anything with a pair of snails to go between the GT/GT500, I'd make it an entry level motor option. I think the GT500 will stick with the blower and stay away from the snails for right now. And the V8 isn't going anywhere.
#23
I don't think any GT should have an ecoboost engine.
Now a Mustang with EB, sure. Especially with what Steve posted above. An entry-level Mustang with steel wheels and hubcaps, 2.0 EB engine, cloth interior, SYNC, and not much more would make a great starter car. Skip painting the door handles and don't add a spoiler. More money saved. Good idea but definitely not with a GT label.
Now a Mustang with EB, sure. Especially with what Steve posted above. An entry-level Mustang with steel wheels and hubcaps, 2.0 EB engine, cloth interior, SYNC, and not much more would make a great starter car. Skip painting the door handles and don't add a spoiler. More money saved. Good idea but definitely not with a GT label.
#24
Well, I love messin' with people, so my boosted '07 GT (Vortech V2) has no GT emblems, has the V6 grill/fogs, and is sporting EcoBoost badging on my hoodscoop now.....
Last edited by Five Oh Brian; 7/28/10 at 06:09 PM.
#25
GT - , it has been a V8 all my life, and I hope it does not change anytime soon.
SE - YES!!! V8 power with V6 economy if driven slowly, definatly yes. Asuming that there is not a huge $ gap from the GT.
SE - YES!!! V8 power with V6 economy if driven slowly, definatly yes. Asuming that there is not a huge $ gap from the GT.
#28
There is no reason or incentive for Ford to use the current iteration ecoboost V6 in the Mustang. It doesn't get any better fuel economy than the 5.0 and doesn't make as much horsepower so why would they consider it?
#29
I'm not so sure that I agree about the mileage of the ecoboost. In the Taurus it gets 17 and 25 mpg, in a car thats way bigger and heavier than the stang and it has AWD... I be it would land between the V6 and V8 milage, and the same goes for the stock power. While it may not have the sound, it has almost as much power.
#36
Ford will do what they have to in oder to stay in the Mustang business. If the stricter CAFE rules are actually implemented that may mean we have to suffer through with a 3300 lb - 450 bhp Ecoboost V6 with a automated sequential gearbox.
The lineup might look something like this:
Cobra / 3300 lb (Carbon Fiber used to reduce weight) / 600 bhp Twin Turbo Direct Injection 5.0L V8 with 7-Speed Sequential Automated Gearbox.
Limited Production
GT / 3300 lb / 450 bhp Twin Turbo Direct Injected 3.5L V6 with Dual Clutch 6-Speed
Base / 3300 lb / 2.0L Turbo Direct Injected 2.0L I4 270 bhp I4 + 45 bhp Electric Motor and Dual Clutch 6-Speed. This would not be a hybrid in the traditional sense but only have limited battery capacity and use the electric motor for short 20 second "Power Boost".
Not saying it will happen, but it could depending on how onerous the regulations they have to meet are.
The lineup might look something like this:
Cobra / 3300 lb (Carbon Fiber used to reduce weight) / 600 bhp Twin Turbo Direct Injection 5.0L V8 with 7-Speed Sequential Automated Gearbox.
Limited Production
GT / 3300 lb / 450 bhp Twin Turbo Direct Injected 3.5L V6 with Dual Clutch 6-Speed
Base / 3300 lb / 2.0L Turbo Direct Injected 2.0L I4 270 bhp I4 + 45 bhp Electric Motor and Dual Clutch 6-Speed. This would not be a hybrid in the traditional sense but only have limited battery capacity and use the electric motor for short 20 second "Power Boost".
Not saying it will happen, but it could depending on how onerous the regulations they have to meet are.
#37
Ford will do what they have to in oder to stay in the Mustang business. If the stricter CAFE rules are actually implemented that may mean we have to suffer through with a 3300 lb - 450 bhp Ecoboost V6 with a automated sequential gearbox.
The lineup might look something like this:
Cobra / 3300 lb (Carbon Fiber used to reduce weight) / 600 bhp Twin Turbo Direct Injection 5.0L V8 with 7-Speed Sequential Automated Gearbox.
Limited Production
GT / 3300 lb / 450 bhp Twin Turbo Direct Injected 3.5L V6 with Dual Clutch 6-Speed
Base / 3300 lb / 2.0L Turbo Direct Injected 2.0L I4 270 bhp I4 + 45 bhp Electric Motor and Dual Clutch 6-Speed. This would not be a hybrid in the traditional sense but only have limited battery capacity and use the electric motor for short 20 second "Power Boost".
Not saying it will happen, but it could depending on how onerous the regulations they have to meet are.
The lineup might look something like this:
Cobra / 3300 lb (Carbon Fiber used to reduce weight) / 600 bhp Twin Turbo Direct Injection 5.0L V8 with 7-Speed Sequential Automated Gearbox.
Limited Production
GT / 3300 lb / 450 bhp Twin Turbo Direct Injected 3.5L V6 with Dual Clutch 6-Speed
Base / 3300 lb / 2.0L Turbo Direct Injected 2.0L I4 270 bhp I4 + 45 bhp Electric Motor and Dual Clutch 6-Speed. This would not be a hybrid in the traditional sense but only have limited battery capacity and use the electric motor for short 20 second "Power Boost".
Not saying it will happen, but it could depending on how onerous the regulations they have to meet are.
I think they're gonna keep the V8 as long as they can and we all know why, because we all love it. But i see fuel efficiency standards getting so strict that they will have to get rid of it one day, unfortunately.
Also i bet many years from now the internal combustion engine will disappear, once again... unfortunately. But from that something better will come about (probably past all our lifetimes though)
#39
If the 2011 GT had been available with your choice of the Coyote or an EcoBoost V6 that delivered the same performance and another 3-4 mpg, I would have taken the EB6, provided that the cost were not too much more than the V8. If it cost an extra $1800, it would take too long to earn that back in gas savings. But if the cost were $600-$800 more, I'd do it. And I wouldn't care if they called it a GT, SHO, SVO, or BBQ.
If ford came out with a ecoboost v6 mustang, i'd buy it in a second, no questions asked, so long as they dont only put an auto behind it. it would be my choice over the v8 any day. I like a v8 sound as good as the next guy, but nothing sounds better to me than TT