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You're assuming my numbers are correct when I pulled them outta my hoop.
It was just to show the possibility.
Like I said, unless your the actual supplier, you won't know the exact manufacturing costs...
the costs on the bullitt parts would be lower because they are buying in HIGH volume and the R/D is done.
Over the 3 year model run the parts could cost ford 250 dollars per package. No one knows exactly.
I remember reading even about the LS3.
It is a FRACTIOn of the cost to manufacture compared to what you even see as a crate motor.
It was just to show the possibility.
Like I said, unless your the actual supplier, you won't know the exact manufacturing costs...
the costs on the bullitt parts would be lower because they are buying in HIGH volume and the R/D is done.
Over the 3 year model run the parts could cost ford 250 dollars per package. No one knows exactly.
I remember reading even about the LS3.
It is a FRACTIOn of the cost to manufacture compared to what you even see as a crate motor.
Package price is $3310, and it appears to have not been increased.
Invoice price is $2879. Not a large mark up on this one.
A big part of it price wise is the rear differential. The rest is spread over the exhaust, CAI, wheels (whicha re just the 18" Bullitts painted dark argent grey, but price them compared to the same wheel painted black or argent), painted calipers, brake pads, suspension items, Seats, and other interior items.
Some items of the package no doubt will make their way to other areas. Some have already to FRPP.
We'll see what makes it to the production 2010 GT.
Invoice price is $2879. Not a large mark up on this one.
A big part of it price wise is the rear differential. The rest is spread over the exhaust, CAI, wheels (whicha re just the 18" Bullitts painted dark argent grey, but price them compared to the same wheel painted black or argent), painted calipers, brake pads, suspension items, Seats, and other interior items.
Some items of the package no doubt will make their way to other areas. Some have already to FRPP.
We'll see what makes it to the production 2010 GT.
So let's say the parts cost $1000. Right there the GT is 1000k more than current model year. Ford isn't gonna sell it at cost, so there has to be a profit margin- maybe another 1k (at dealer invoice) and then tack a bit more on. So the 2010 is going to be at least 2k more than current MY. And that's not counting some items that used to be options but will now become standard- they aren't going to give those away either. So 3k at least will be the price increase.
So let's say the parts cost $1000. Right there the GT is 1000k more than current model year. Ford isn't gonna sell it at cost, so there has to be a profit margin- maybe another 1k (at dealer invoice) and then tack a bit more on. So the 2010 is going to be at least 2k more than current MY. And that's not counting some items that used to be options but will now become standard- they aren't going to give those away either. So 3k at least will be the price increase.
One point to consider:
When comparing the price of the base 2004 GT to the 2005 GT, the 2005 Mustang GT was more.
However, the 2005 came standard with ABS disc brakes at all 4 corners. If you added that same option to the 2004 model, the 2004 GT costed more than the 2005 GT.
The application here is that we can't assume that a 2010 GT, with Bullitt parts, won't be significantly cheaper than a 2009 Bullitt. Will it be more than a 2009 GT? Possibly, but I doubt it will be radically more.
When comparing the price of the base 2004 GT to the 2005 GT, the 2005 Mustang GT was more.
However, the 2005 came standard with ABS disc brakes at all 4 corners. If you added that same option to the 2004 model, the 2004 GT costed more than the 2005 GT.
The application here is that we can't assume that a 2010 GT, with Bullitt parts, won't be significantly cheaper than a 2009 Bullitt. Will it be more than a 2009 GT? Possibly, but I doubt it will be radically more.
Well "hope" is what keeps people afloat. But with all the extra's everybody is wanting this car to have (suspension, engine upgrades, brakes, interior, etc.), I just think it seems a little off the mark to expect this car to be the same price as a current GT.
But we'll all know the answer in a few months time.
But we'll all know the answer in a few months time.
One point to consider:
When comparing the price of the base 2004 GT to the 2005 GT, the 2005 Mustang GT was more.
However, the 2005 came standard with ABS disc brakes at all 4 corners. If you added that same option to the 2004 model, the 2004 GT costed more than the 2005 GT.
The application here is that we can't assume that a 2010 GT, with Bullitt parts, won't be significantly cheaper than a 2009 Bullitt. Will it be more than a 2009 GT? Possibly, but I doubt it will be radically more.
When comparing the price of the base 2004 GT to the 2005 GT, the 2005 Mustang GT was more.
However, the 2005 came standard with ABS disc brakes at all 4 corners. If you added that same option to the 2004 model, the 2004 GT costed more than the 2005 GT.
The application here is that we can't assume that a 2010 GT, with Bullitt parts, won't be significantly cheaper than a 2009 Bullitt. Will it be more than a 2009 GT? Possibly, but I doubt it will be radically more.
When I was at Woodward, I don't recall the presenter saying "we are re-using Bullitt parts". What I heard them say was "we want to get the GT's performance up to the '08/'09 Bullitt's level".
This could be achieved by using existing Bullitt parts or by doing more tuning that starts with the existing GT parts as a basis.
This could be achieved by using existing Bullitt parts or by doing more tuning that starts with the existing GT parts as a basis.
When I was at Woodward, I don't recall the presenter saying "we are re-using Bullitt parts". What I heard them say was "we want to get the GT's performance up to the '08/'09 Bullitt's level".
This could be achieved by using existing Bullitt parts or by doing more tuning that starts with the existing GT parts as a basis.
This could be achieved by using existing Bullitt parts or by doing more tuning that starts with the existing GT parts as a basis.
However they make the GT perform "up to the '08/'09 Bullitt's level" is fine with me, if the cost doesn't increase significantly. Using existing Bullitt parts would make sense if it cost less to use them than to make new ones; not so much if they could use less expensive parts to achieve the same results.
But as others have said, "We'll see in a few months". (Still fun to conjecture, though!!)
But as others have said, "We'll see in a few months". (Still fun to conjecture, though!!)
Well, It's been fun but with the recent news of the 2010 Mustang GT staying with the 4.6L and only being 310hp, I am going to go over to GM, I just don't want to mod any more to keep up with the competition. The 2010 Camaro is better looking than the 4th Gen but not as good as the mustang, but I want more power. I just read that the SS Camaro will start at about 30K, for 422hp I am all over that.
Sorry guys but it's been real but Ford once again drops the ball and lets GM pounce all over them.
Sorry guys but it's been real but Ford once again drops the ball and lets GM pounce all over them.
I would be utterly amazed if they could deliver a 422 hp Camaro SS for 30K. Even stripped, they'd have to really use cheap hardware, materials, etc.
Shades of Camaros/Firebirds past: clearly trounce the Mustang on raw numbers, but lose in the sales race because of inferior overall quality/drivability.
Could be wrong. GM has made some serious improvements elsewhere. But I really think that to get a Camaro SS close to a Mustang GT price they'd have to cut an awful lot of corners...
Shades of Camaros/Firebirds past: clearly trounce the Mustang on raw numbers, but lose in the sales race because of inferior overall quality/drivability.
Could be wrong. GM has made some serious improvements elsewhere. But I really think that to get a Camaro SS close to a Mustang GT price they'd have to cut an awful lot of corners...



