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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 07:07 PM
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And you sir are now wasting your own time and mine by posting, thanks.

"Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed,I will. I got spare time."
Wow bro, you are hostile. Don't take everything so personally, it wasn't even directed at you. I'm not for or against either side. Just got a kick out of all the debating. LOL
Old Mar 22, 2012 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 2012GTCS

Wow bro, you are hostile. Don't take everything so personally, it wasn't even directed at you. I'm not for or against either side. Just got a kick out of all the debating. LOL
Hey bro - it was a joke

Everything written on the inner web I take personally

Also, not on either side just having fun stoking the coals
Old Mar 22, 2012 | 07:19 PM
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O ok. Lol I was like wtf why so serious lol. I wasnt trying to be mean
Old Mar 22, 2012 | 07:44 PM
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Or, you could just not click on it and let everyone else enjoy it.
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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 07:49 PM
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Old Mar 22, 2012 | 08:01 PM
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Why does lincoln look so sad? He was all about pay 2 play when it came to the railroad subsidies and other forms of corporate welfare.

Yeah I get its placement here for the wording but the context is just all wrong as well as the photoshopper's knowledge of history.
Old Mar 22, 2012 | 08:49 PM
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Why does lincoln look so sad?
Maybe he saw the corrupt liberal cesspool that Illinois has become since he died.
Old Mar 22, 2012 | 08:56 PM
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Maybe he saw the corrupt liberal cesspool that Illinois has become since he died.
Yeah, or maybe it's because the Dixiecrats joined his Republican Party and tried to take the country back to 1863...
Old Mar 22, 2012 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown
Maybe he saw the corrupt liberal cesspool that Illinois has become since he died.
Illinois has been a politically corrupt cesspool since at least Lincoln's time.
Old Mar 22, 2012 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by nickt916
-STEEDA disagrees that it voids the warranty
-STEEDA in no way claims that it will not void the warranty
-STEEDA works closely with ford and will resolve issues, but every ford dealer is different and it depends on that dealership.
-STEEDA CAI requires a tune, they stand behind their products 100% , tuner however is not a steeda product.
-After tune you cannot reverse it back to stock because Ford will see a flash hs been done
-STEEDA will not pay for your rental car if need be and its their CIA/Tune related.
-STEEDA will not pay your court fees or fight ford with you if you decided to fight ford in court on warranty void issue, even tho they work so closely with ford.

if only STEEDA didn't do smoke an mirrors on its customers... I'm off the STEEDA wagon

ill probably just go K&N filter and will get my 3HP that way and will not worry about removing it during service or voiding anything
steeda wil not feed you

Steeda will not cloth you

Steeda will not pay your speeding ticket.

Steeda will not wipe your bottom
Old Mar 22, 2012 | 09:50 PM
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I am sure companies that offer a warranty will do the same thing ford will and wait to pay a single dime until a full investigation is conducted. As soon as your car goes into the shop with a motor problem they will not be at your door dropping off a rental car and handing you a over sized check for a repair bill.
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Originally Posted by Flagstang

steeda wil not feed you

Steeda will not cloth you

Steeda will not pay your speeding ticket.

Steeda will not wipe your bottom
Hahaha I liked that one.
Old Mar 23, 2012 | 04:31 AM
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If I was ANY manufacturing company for Mustangs I woulndt make another item after reading the immature comments and deliberate attacks you guys have done.

Its smple to make up your own minds if you choose to modify your cars

I mean jeesh, havent you ever had conversations with people that you felt different but just kept your opinion to yourself instead of having arguments?

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Old Mar 23, 2012 | 04:54 AM
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If I was ANY manufacturing company for Mustangs I woulndt make another item after reading the immature comments and deliberate attacks you guys have done.
+1
Lock this stupid thread

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Old Mar 23, 2012 | 06:32 AM
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Why is it that Steeda thinks it's ok to post their ridiculous test results, but refuse to answer simple questions about them?

They have even had comments deleted from threads Vs answer them.

We have the same filers, but theirs flows better per their artists graphics

How can an intake with a metal MAF housing and metal shield surrounding the filter only increase inlet air temps 4 degrees, but the stock box will be 10+ degrees hotter in city traffic and 65 degrees?

I was doing some testing the day before this even came out to prove a
point.
Here's the video:

I'd like to see those temps when tested longer than 30 seconds, like any normal traffic light.

What is the dyno graph supposed to prove?
1) they didn't show A/F, so how "good" was the JLT tune made by Steeda?
2) the JLT made 6 more peak torque than the Steeda and over all it was so close it's a wash.

When the 2011 first came out Steeda claimed 54 RWHP gains because they did a base line run with 87 fuel, then a final tune and CAI with 93 to deceive the customer. No 2011 GT has ever gained that kind of power, none!

People are asking questions to their power, testing and warranty claims all over the net, but they are getting no response.

If you want to compare your product to another, we ready for some Q&A.
People are smarter than you think.

All this to "try" and prove the Steeda CAI is worth nearly $100 more than a JLT CAI...
I don't see it.

$90 more than this:

$40 more than this:

Only $40 less than this:
Old Mar 23, 2012 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by wheelman
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Lock this stupid thread
Stay out waiting on steedas reply
Old Mar 23, 2012 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Tucker

How can an intake with a metal MAF housing and metal shield surrounding the filter only increase inlet air temps 4 degrees, but the stock box will be 10+ degrees hotter in city traffic and 65 degrees?

I was doing some testing the day before this even came out to prove a
point.
Here's the video:Inlet air temp test 2011 GT stock air box - YouTube

I'd like to see those temps when tested longer than 30 seconds, like any normal traffic light.
This is why I asked the question that I did about the stock air box. I presume that there would have been some loss of cooling effect with the metal pieces. I presume that composite materials would transmit less of the hot air inside the engine compartment. Of course, there might be other factors I am not considering, as I don't the expertise to understand all of the particulars around the effect of airflow on temperature, etc.

Thanks for your video.
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Stay out waiting on steedas reply
Old Mar 23, 2012 | 07:37 AM
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Sooo - I went back to try to find an intake comparison test I remember seeing somewhere before and guess what I found?!?!?

A comparison test that Guss posted back on 4/27/11 and it's going to be very shocking to read because . . . the dyno results are EXACTLY the same as this "New" blog they just released. When I say exactly I don't mean peak #'s are the same I mean it’s the same exact curve.

Then - I read through some more and read these comments from each and tell me if they sound contradicting to you. Both of these were posted by Steeda themselves.

Per the prior test/comments linked below that Gus posted here on TMS 4/27/11:

"No, this is not a "STEEDA is the best" thread. So read on for some really good info!

A few months ago there was a similar thread which I believe got deleted cause I could not find it anymore. Myself and a few others questioned the results of that thread, as it showed one of the intakes with tuning to make less power in the midrange than a stock car which is not true, it also showed one of the intakes making a ton of low end power over the others which was also incorrect.

We knew from our own data for this to be incorrect. Our argument was that these intakes are all close and you really can't go wrong with any one of them. But for the data to be valid for presentation we needed to do pulls on the same car, same day, same dyno. Our data at the time was scattered and not from the same cars, days, etc. Only from the same dyno.

So a few weeks ago we finally got the intakes together for our own shootout, same car, same day, same dyno, etc......

The tunes for this test were setup so timing and fuel were completely stable & consistent, so the differences between just the cold air systems themselves would be revealed. We did not have a stock intake for this car to test, so we baseline the Steeda system with tuning, then swapped each intake, modified the tune to accomodate each intake and made another pull.

So did our shootout back up what we were saying all along???

Yes, it did. As you can see, you really can't go wrong with any of these intake systems. They all make comparable levels of horsepower and torque across the entire RPM range.

As we had argued in the past, due to its size the JLT trades off a little bit of low end torque, however to the average user this difference would not be perceptible. Any of these intakes given the same tuning will essentially feel and perform about the same. I am sure some of the JLT's torque loss down low could be minimized with further tuning, but that was not the intent for this test and would have skewed the results. We wanted to show what the intakes themselves will do compared to each other.

So the conclusion? Choose your cold air intake based on your personal preference, because from a performance standpoint, you will not be disappointed by any of the ones in this thread. "


Now per the blog post after the SAME EXACT dyno chart their comments are:

"As you can see, the oversized housing of the ‘J’ cold air suffers from a serious lack of low end torque compared to our optimally designed system. From 2200 all the way to 3500 we make more low end torque. You will feel this extra low end torque when driving the vehicle and throttle response will be noticeably better as well. You can also see the extra size did not provide any kind of top end horsepower advantage whatsoever. In fact we averaged more horsepower over the last 1400rpm even through our MAF size is smaller than brand ‘J’. Bigger is not always better, and in this case it is not better in any way."

Now I really could care less about how people market stuff as long as it makes sense! But, don't **** down my back and call it rain

https://themustangsource.com/f726/steeda-vs-airaid-vs-jlt-cold-air-best-look-here-494698/

I will qualify all this by saying - I have products from each company and quality has been great with each and I have dealt with each over the phone/through email and service is always exceptional. But now I don't know what to think



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