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Old 3/29/10 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
It's not a 6.2 and its not a blower.

I don't want to get into the feature...
but its one of those things that if it IS on the car, you might think...that's kinda cool.
If it doesn't, you wouldn't miss it.
Shaker hood scoop?
Old 3/29/10 | 09:51 PM
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Remove the sound deadening. ~15lbs
A/C delete an option - that's got to be worth over 50lbs alone.
Manual Recaro seats - 30-50lbs
6-gauge cluster, IUP steering wheel, but no Shaker system - 20lbs (amps and speakers)
SHR lexan quarter windows - 3-5 lbs

Anything else?
I'll add an aluminum driveshaft to my list.
Old 3/29/10 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
It's not a 6.2 and its not a blower.

I don't want to get into the feature...
but its one of those things that if it IS on the car, you might think...that's kinda cool.
If it doesn't, you wouldn't miss it.
Are you talking about something on the drivetrain, or something about the car in general?
Old 3/29/10 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
It's not a 6.2 and its not a blower.

I don't want to get into the feature...
but its one of those things that if it IS on the car, you might think...that's kinda cool.
If it doesn't, you wouldn't miss it.
Oh man. The suspense is gonna kill me.
Old 3/29/10 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Overboost
Are you talking about something on the drivetrain, or something about the car in general?
It'll be on the boss
hahah


Don't worry about it, like I said before, its cool, but if it wasn't there... you wouldn't miss it.
Old 3/29/10 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
It'll be on the boss
hahah



Darn you Boomer!


Old 3/29/10 | 11:00 PM
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me thinks something forged this way comes...
Old 3/30/10 | 12:08 AM
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Man that parnelli jones saleen mustang was nice. One of my favorite 05-09 body styles. And it did pack a 5.0.
Old 3/30/10 | 01:26 AM
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I could see Ford going with a manual only, hotter cam, higher redline, and an intake with shorter runner for more power up top. The Ford engineers said the 5.0 can rev higher and more power is available up top. I could see an honest 25 HP going this route.

I don't see them pulling a lot of weight. If they could cheaply, Ford would have already done it with the GT500.

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Old 3/30/10 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 1trickpony
I don't see them pulling a lot of weight. If they could cheaply, Ford would have already done it with the GT500.
I can see why they haven't done it for the GT500. Just look at how big an issue the painted axles has become. It would seem that the average GT500 buyer is a person who expects a lot to go with the car's high price tag. Removing items such as A/C, sound deadening or other NVH features could be a non-starter for that type of customer.

If the Boss' purpose is to recreate a limited volume, purpose built showroom stock road racer, in the way the original Boss was a homologation special, then it would make sense to remove some of the creature comforts.

The market served by this year's 302R is a professional, funded team (with a price north of 80k and a max volume of 50, non street legal cars).

A market not currently targeted is the amateur racer who wants to compete in showroom stock/street stock racing. This type of customer (of which I would be one) would be more than happy to trade creature comforts for performance. I would more than happy to delete options rather than to pay for and then remove them (or be stuck living with them if class rules don't permit their removal).
Old 3/30/10 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs



Darn you Boomer!


Carburetors.








Old 3/30/10 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
It'll be on the boss
hahah


Don't worry about it, like I said before, its cool, but if it wasn't there... you wouldn't miss it.
Push button start? I think its pretty cool but again no one would miss it if it was not there.
Old 3/30/10 | 08:57 AM
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TWWWWIIIIIIXXXXXXXX!!!!!!

Old 3/30/10 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by yeahyouknwit
Push button start? I think its pretty cool but again no one would miss it if it was not there.
I don't think we will see that until the 2014 redesign.
Old 3/30/10 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 2k7gtcs
TWWWWIIIIIIXXXXXXXX!!!!!!

What was that?

There's a mental hospital not too far from here...
Old 3/30/10 | 10:35 AM
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Push button start is dumb on a street car.
Old 3/30/10 | 10:48 AM
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Active park assist?

Performance oriented gauge display on steering wheel/trip computer?
Old 3/30/10 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by PTRocks
I can see why they haven't done it for the GT500. Just look at how big an issue the painted axles has become. It would seem that the average GT500 buyer is a person who expects a lot to go with the car's high price tag. Removing items such as A/C, sound deadening or other NVH features could be a non-starter for that type of customer.

If the Boss' purpose is to recreate a limited volume, purpose built showroom stock road racer, in the way the original Boss was a homologation special, then it would make sense to remove some of the creature comforts.

The market served by this year's 302R is a professional, funded team (with a price north of 80k and a max volume of 50, non street legal cars).

A market not currently targeted is the amateur racer who wants to compete in showroom stock/street stock racing. This type of customer (of which I would be one) would be more than happy to trade creature comforts for performance. I would more than happy to delete options rather than to pay for and then remove them (or be stuck living with them if class rules don't permit their removal).
I understand your point but don't see Ford doing this was the Boss. I see some stripes and a few upgrades with a nice markup ($39,999?). I think the market for a showroom stock racer is too limited and other folks will want thier creature comforts. Plus Ford makes a ton from options IMHO.
Old 3/30/10 | 11:39 AM
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If the car is only $40k it won't have enough content for me to want to buy it. A GT is $40k.
Old 3/30/10 | 11:39 AM
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I'm hoping this "mystery feature" that we're trying to figure out is something useful, and not more of a flash in the pan moment. I don't really care for something visual, I'd rather have something of use.


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