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Test drove a Challenger SRT, immeditely missed my 5.0

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Old 5/21/12 | 02:30 PM
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The only thing holding him back on it, is the rear seat room. The SRT (and he measured it) had 4" more legroom than the stang. I told him for 15k, the kids can deal with 4"... lol
Back in the early 70's high school my buddy had a 65 2+2 fastback. He's was 6'6" then. Fit him fine.
As for anyone else - they dealt with it. When there were 4 riders, I always knew I was getting the hump seat cause I was the smallest of my friends at 5'6"ish then. It wasn't that bad as long as it wasn't a real long drive.
And no matter what! Nobody was ridin' in a 4 door! We just accepted the 2 door - push the seat up - as life.
Tell him to quit whining and buy the 5.0!



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Old 5/21/12 | 02:34 PM
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That sucks man
Why?
Old 5/21/12 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cdynaco
Back in the early 70's high school my buddy had a 65 2+2 fastback. He's was 6'6" then. Fit him fine.
As for anyone else - they dealt with it. When there were 4 riders, I always knew I was getting the hump seat cause I was the smallest of my friends at 5'6"ish then. It wasn't that bad as long as it wasn't a real long drive.
And no matter what! Nobody was ridin' in a 4 door! We just accepted the 2 door - push the seat up - as life.
Tell him to quit whining and buy the 5.0!


I agree... now he's saying he also has to check out a Lexus IS-F... I'm like whaaaaaat.... He's so whishy washy sometimes. I think deep down, he was pissed I got the 5.0 in Kona before he did.... lol. He's the one who pushed me to get mine. lol.
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IS-F? thats raptor money
Old 5/21/12 | 03:06 PM
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yeah he's loaded, so I don't think it'd be an issue. He drives a loaded Expedition right now, plus a Subie Legacy GT. He plans on keeping both, but is looking for a 9mo/yr "toy".
Old 5/21/12 | 05:47 PM
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I'm kind of in a similar situation. Had an 07 GT I got rid of a couple of years ago, need something fun to drive again.

The Challenger is the best looking of the two, hands down. I grew up with Mopars and restored a '72 'Cuda, drove it for 11 years before selling it in 2005. I liked my GT, only complaints I had were the seats were garbage. Ford still uses the same seats, and after an hour it in, you could feel a spring or the seat bar digging into the right cheek.

Oh, and for $30k+, you'd think they could put a telescoping steering wheel in it. But, that was just a minor irritant. Mechanically it was money, drove it year round in three awful Michigan winters with just a change to snow tires.

Not a lot of backseat room in the GT. Anybody over 5'8 will smack their head into the read window. Had an 04 GTO, that was even worse on leg room - and trunk space. US crash regulations meant moving the gas tank and standing it up behind the rear seat. removed about 3ft of luggage space.

The real cons to the Challenger are:

1. Cost. As hard as it is to get excited about paying over $30,000 for a BASE Mustang GT -- paying that much for a Dodge is even worse.

2. Weight. The car is about 400lbs away from being perfect. How the h311 do these things get away with weighing 4200lbs?!! Mix in some aluminum or fiberglass hood/trunk lid or something. The 5.7L Hemi puts out decent power, but let's be honest; it's really no better than a 12 year old LS1, and it's powering something 700lbs heavier.

3. Can't tune it. 2011-2012s are currently locked with rolling encrypction codes. Chrysler has not released any softeware assistance for the tuning community. So you can put mufflers or a Cold Air kit on it which might add 5hp, but headers, catless H pipe, cam, anything requiring a tune...you can't tune for it. Kind of a bummer. Luckily Challenger guys seem to like putting every conceivable sticker put on any Dodge or Plymouth musclecar from 64-74 on it.

5.0L Mustang is impossible to beat on paper. And at the track with traction for the most part...
Old 5/21/12 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FromZto5
The 300 SRT8 was like 50k. Even more money. Jesus. And the room inside was far snugger than the Challenger. 50k for a Chrysler. wowwwwwww....
They are pricey. I looked at an SRT8 300 today, white with the black chrome wheels. It was loaded to the hilt, the adaptive cruise control/blind spot etc. package, the premium leather trim package ($2500 iirc) 19 speaker premium sound system, dual panel sunroof, sticker was over $58K. Damned hot looking sedan though.
Old 5/21/12 | 06:35 PM
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Damned hot looking sedan though.
Yeah I think they look great.
Old 5/21/12 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikey

Why?
Being taller than 6'3" is too tall.
Old 5/21/12 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B.Blown
They are pricey. I looked at an SRT8 300 today, white with the black chrome wheels. It was loaded to the hilt, the adaptive cruise control/blind spot etc. package, the premium leather trim package ($2500 iirc) 19 speaker premium sound system, dual panel sunroof, sticker was over $58K. Damned hot looking sedan though.
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Yeah I think they look great.
Yeah it looks ok...but for 58 k? For a Chrysler? I'd be happy with a base 5.0 with an added whipple. But yeah I get the need for a backseat with more room.... Still that's insane.
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Thomas Magnum was 6'-4" and drove around quite nicely in a 1981 Ferrari 308 GTS. Just had to make sure the targa roof was removed so his head could stick up.

I know, that comment was useless, but when you mentioned 6'-4" it made me think of the Selleck character since we watched a Magnum p.i. episode on Netflix tonight. That and I LOOOOVE the looks of that Ferrari, even tho my 2012 GT could likely accelerate and handle rings around it. Found a few the other day on Auto Trader for low-to-mid '30's, right in the meat of the GT Premium pricing...
Old 5/21/12 | 08:52 PM
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I'd get the SHO. Had a 2010 for about a year and
loved it. The 2013s are even better. But I'm 6' and getting in and out of the front seat was just as hard as getting in and out of a Mustang. Great room in the back and a HUGE trunk. A great fast family car. The AWD pulls. You can basically just floor it and be gone!
Old 5/21/12 | 09:06 PM
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I'd get the 2013 SHO Taurus I saw it at the NY auto show and fell in love with it. Best of both worlds family car and a 350 HP animal.

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Old 5/22/12 | 07:15 AM
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I agree with the SHO comment. My buddy thinks it fugly tho. I don't think it's real looker, but it ain't THAT bad. I'd be happy with it. I just need him to test drive one.

oh and update: I guess he and the wifey talked so now, coupes (bye Mustang) are out, because they (she) wants the kids to be able to get in and out on their own. So essentially, it's a 4 door sedan type vehicle only
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The CTS-V should be in his price range right? Or a C63... Ok, maybe not but I'm just throwin it out there.

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Old 5/22/12 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by FromZto5
I agree with the SHO comment. My buddy thinks it fugly tho. I don't think it's real looker, but it ain't THAT bad. I'd be happy with it. I just need him to test drive one.

oh and update: I guess he and the wifey talked so now, coupes (bye Mustang) are out, because they (she) wants the kids to be able to get in and out on their own. So essentially, it's a 4 door sedan type vehicle only
Still lots of good options:
  • Hyundai Genesis sedan
  • Ford Taurus SHO
  • Chevrolet SS (not out now but it's going to be sweet I bet)
  • Used Pontiac G8
  • Charger/300
  • Lightly used BMW 7-series (7s drop in price a ton and a couple year old one can be had for in the 40's easily)
  • Cadillac CTS-V
Old 5/22/12 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by FromZto5
I agree with the SHO comment. My buddy thinks it fugly tho. I don't think it's real looker, but it ain't THAT bad. I'd be happy with it. I just need him to test drive one.

oh and update: I guess he and the wifey talked so now, coupes (bye Mustang) are out, because they (she) wants the kids to be able to get in and out on their own. So essentially, it's a 4 door sedan type vehicle only

It got me thinking...
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Is the SHO AWD now? My prob w the SHO would be the lack of RWD. I hate the extra ' noise' FWD inputs to steering feel.
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Originally Posted by kylerohde
Still lots of good options:
  • Hyundai Genesis sedan
  • Ford Taurus SHO
  • Chevrolet SS (not out now but it's going to be sweet I bet)
  • Used Pontiac G8
  • Charger/300
  • Lightly used BMW 7-series (7s drop in price a ton and a couple year old one can be had for in the 40's easily)
  • Cadillac CTS-V
good thought on the genesis sedan. Not sure how he feels about hyundai. If so, has to be the V8.

For some reason he hates BMW's.... I wouldn't own one either, since the maintenance cost would drive me nuts. I think it's an image thing for him, lol.


Originally Posted by newpony
It got me thinking...
all I see is a red X... error with image attachment, sorry.

Originally Posted by Double-EDad
Is the SHO AWD now? My prob w the SHO would be the lack of RWD. I hate the extra ' noise' FWD inputs to steering feel.
Yes SHO is only AWD. I like the 2013's.... I believe the rear tail lights are LED. Speaking of which... are the Taillights on our 5.0's LED or regular bulbs? pardon the stupid question.

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Old 5/22/12 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FromZto5

all I see is a red X... error with image attachment, sorry.
No sure what is happening, i can see the picture fine but I'm the one that uploaded the picture. Anyways it is the picture of the new BMW M5.


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