Test drove a 5.0 and an SS
#21
I drove the SS, 5.0, and R/T. Of the three, the 5.0 still wins IMO as the best all-around car, and the one I can live with daily.
The SS is a great car, and I like the look, especially with the RS package, but the interior gets a lot wrong. Poor placement of controls, bad steering wheel, poor visibility, and high beltline killed it for me.
In terms of driving it though, it was decent. Plenty of power, suspension was softer than I would have hoped for, but overall it wasn't a bad ride. I think the exhaust is quieter than the 5.0 or R/T in stock form though.
I know personally, I couldn't live with the Camaro as a daily driver. I just found too many things I didn't care for right off the bat.
The SS is a great car, and I like the look, especially with the RS package, but the interior gets a lot wrong. Poor placement of controls, bad steering wheel, poor visibility, and high beltline killed it for me.
In terms of driving it though, it was decent. Plenty of power, suspension was softer than I would have hoped for, but overall it wasn't a bad ride. I think the exhaust is quieter than the 5.0 or R/T in stock form though.
I know personally, I couldn't live with the Camaro as a daily driver. I just found too many things I didn't care for right off the bat.
#22
I drove the SS, 5.0, and R/T. Of the three, the 5.0 still wins IMO as the best all-around car, and the one I can live with daily.
The SS is a great car, and I like the look, especially with the RS package, but the interior gets a lot wrong. Poor placement of controls, bad steering wheel, poor visibility, and high beltline killed it for me.
In terms of driving it though, it was decent. Plenty of power, suspension was softer than I would have hoped for, but overall it wasn't a bad ride. I think the exhaust is quieter than the 5.0 or R/T in stock form though.
I know personally, I couldn't live with the Camaro as a daily driver. I just found too many things I didn't care for right off the bat.
The SS is a great car, and I like the look, especially with the RS package, but the interior gets a lot wrong. Poor placement of controls, bad steering wheel, poor visibility, and high beltline killed it for me.
In terms of driving it though, it was decent. Plenty of power, suspension was softer than I would have hoped for, but overall it wasn't a bad ride. I think the exhaust is quieter than the 5.0 or R/T in stock form though.
I know personally, I couldn't live with the Camaro as a daily driver. I just found too many things I didn't care for right off the bat.
#23
In terms of the interior I definitely think it's unique, pretty much love it or hate it. As far as functionality I thought it was fine, didn't have any issues with the location of controls, etc. Maybe it's because I'm not really tall and I had the seat moved very far forward. Dunno.
#24
Comparing dyno charts of a factory Ford 5.0L vs. an LS3 Camaro with muffler delete (which probably didn't help performance all that much, if at all), the Camaro definitely "out-torques" the much-smaller-displacement Ford engine, but the disparity isn't as great as I would have guessed. Also of note is the Mustang's dyno sheet is SAE whereas the Camaro's is STD (it was the only near-factory LS3 dyno sheet I could find). In the end, I think Ford did an excellent job with the new Coyote engine. We already know that the LS3 is a proven powerhouse of an engine.
#25
Comparing dyno charts of a factory Ford 5.0L vs. an LS3 Camaro with muffler delete (which probably didn't help performance all that much, if at all), the Camaro definitely "out-torques" the much-smaller-displacement Ford engine, but the disparity isn't as great as I would have guessed. Also of note is the Mustang's dyno sheet is SAE whereas the Camaro's is STD (it was the only near-factory LS3 dyno sheet I could find). In the end, I think Ford did an excellent job with the new Coyote engine. We already know that the LS3 is a proven powerhouse of an engine.
My only complaint about the new mustang is the lack of low end torque, but i am coming from an lsx platform, i guess my expectations were too high.
#26
Comparing dyno charts of a factory Ford 5.0L vs. an LS3 Camaro with muffler delete (which probably didn't help performance all that much, if at all), the Camaro definitely "out-torques" the much-smaller-displacement Ford engine, but the disparity isn't as great as I would have guessed. Also of note is the Mustang's dyno sheet is SAE whereas the Camaro's is STD (it was the only near-factory LS3 dyno sheet I could find). In the end, I think Ford did an excellent job with the new Coyote engine. We already know that the LS3 is a proven powerhouse of an engine.
#27
They sure did. You're right, the disparity isn't THAT great, but it is noticable when driving them back to back, that's all I'm really saying. Of course as mentioned the Getrag in the 5.0 is geared so that the car is still very quick and accelerates well throughout the entire RPM band.
#28
The LS1 Camaro is a much lighter car, too. In fact, a friend of mine at work owns a Roushcharged 2008 Mustang GT and typically gets beaten at the drag strip by virtually-stock LS1 Camaros and Firebirds. That said, I have a feeling that an LS1 Camaro would walk one of the new, two-ton LS3 Camaros, as well.
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Although i wasn't very comfortable with the stang at that point and we haven't had a chance to rematch but i think the stang will have 1+ cars by 100.
#37
Most of the runs I have seen back up what he is saying. The stang pulls harder as the RPM's go up. Right after they both shift it takes a sec to put more on it. Similar experience with my Z28 and my buddies CS/GT. Even with my much lower (numerically 2.73's when I was mostly stock still) gears mash it at 2500 rpms you can feel it plant you better. You'd feel the disparity more on an off idle romp though than you would a drag race unless you were just looking for it. Haven't driven either yet but I can already guess what the Camaro feels like owning an LS1 and LS2 car my LS2 car being very similar in the HP to weight category.
As far as an LS1 Camaro beating the LS3? Not if the driver can actually drive it otherwise driver's race and who has the most/better mods. From what I see the launching it is just harder than the LS1 cars.
As far as an LS1 Camaro beating the LS3? Not if the driver can actually drive it otherwise driver's race and who has the most/better mods. From what I see the launching it is just harder than the LS1 cars.
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