So much for my Job2 build
8/5/10, 06:40 PM
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So much for my Job2 build
I specifically requested a Job2 build, but unfortunately they pulled it early and it started production already. My salesman is an awesome guy and contacted me immediately this morning, to see if I wanted him to reorder it. I told him no, I want this car. After pulling up the window sticker and seeing my name on it, how could I pass? Oh well, Job 1 it is!
http://www.inventory.fordvehicles.co...BP8CF2B5144168
http://www.inventory.fordvehicles.co...BP8CF2B5144168
8/5/10, 06:48 PM
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That is what I thought too, originally. The 120100817 at the top that you are referring to must be when the build is finished. The 1 before the 20100817 means Job1. My production began during Job 1 so that is what it is. Production process began 8/3.
8/5/10, 06:54 PM
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8/5/10, 08:43 PM
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That's what I thought too. However, the Vehicle Visibility shows the car as "bucked", thus starting the process 8/3. Is it possible that my car is starting production during Job1 and ending during Job2? I would never have questioned the 8/17 build date on the sticker, except my dealer called, telling me Ford pulled it early and it will be Job1. Whatever, it's gonna rock regardless of build date!
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That's what I thought too. However, the Vehicle Visibility shows the car as "bucked", thus starting the process 8/3. Is it possible that my car is starting production during Job1 and ending during Job2? I would never have questioned the 8/17 build date on the sticker, except my dealer called, telling me Ford pulled it early and it will be Job1. Whatever, it's gonna rock regardless of build date!
8/6/10, 04:34 AM
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Thanks! It sounds like my dealer might have given me some misleading information. 8/17 Job2 it is!
8/6/10, 10:15 AM
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Oops...Those guys are gonna be hung over having just come off vacation!......J/K.
Seriously though, I bought an '08 Corvette built the second day of production (in 2007) for the new LS3....There were so many QC guys walking down the line to assure the new build was right, the car was perfect. Good luck!
Seriously though, I bought an '08 Corvette built the second day of production (in 2007) for the new LS3....There were so many QC guys walking down the line to assure the new build was right, the car was perfect. Good luck!
8/6/10, 11:15 AM
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Who knows...
Regardless, the only changes for job 2 I show from a FOMOCO document are:
V6 performance package (67B)
18x8 wide spoke wheels with black chrome
Yellow Blaze Metallic
California special car cover (with that package)
Regardless, the only changes for job 2 I show from a FOMOCO document are:
V6 performance package (67B)
18x8 wide spoke wheels with black chrome
Yellow Blaze Metallic
California special car cover (with that package)
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8/6/10, 11:38 AM
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The reality is that too much emphasis is put on "Job 1" vs "Job 2". "Job 2" is more of a "deadline" than anything, a date set in VO's (Vehicle Operations) timetable to have the extra features ready by.
It's not so much that suddenly the "Job 2" cars get better parts, it's when extra options (as mentioned by Modshack) come online. So unless you are ordering a car with the features mentioned above, then there won't be many changes if any at all.
For example, if you ordered a "Yellow Blaze" car, you wouldn't suddenly get Red Candy if it got built early!
Engineering updates happen all the time. If it's an important change, they will implement it on the fly. They won't wait until "Job 2".
It's not so much that suddenly the "Job 2" cars get better parts, it's when extra options (as mentioned by Modshack) come online. So unless you are ordering a car with the features mentioned above, then there won't be many changes if any at all.
For example, if you ordered a "Yellow Blaze" car, you wouldn't suddenly get Red Candy if it got built early!
Engineering updates happen all the time. If it's an important change, they will implement it on the fly. They won't wait until "Job 2".
8/6/10, 11:38 AM
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The ones that bothered me most were Heads, Manual Trans and VCT Parts.
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8/6/10, 11:51 AM
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The reality is that too much emphasis is put on "Job 1" vs "Job 2". "Job 2" is more of a "deadline" than anything, a date set in VO's (Vehicle Operations) timetable to have the extra features ready by.
It's not so much that suddenly the "Job 2" cars get better parts, it's when extra options (as mentioned by Modshack) come online. So unless you are ordering a car with the features mentioned above, then there won't be many changes if any at all.
For example, if you ordered a "Yellow Blaze" car, you wouldn't suddenly get Red Candy if it got built early!
Engineering updates happen all the time. If it's an important change, they will implement it on the fly. They won't wait until "Job 2".
It's not so much that suddenly the "Job 2" cars get better parts, it's when extra options (as mentioned by Modshack) come online. So unless you are ordering a car with the features mentioned above, then there won't be many changes if any at all.
For example, if you ordered a "Yellow Blaze" car, you wouldn't suddenly get Red Candy if it got built early!
Engineering updates happen all the time. If it's an important change, they will implement it on the fly. They won't wait until "Job 2".
New items listed in BOLD
This is a non-exhaustive list based solely on the listings for 5.0L M/T cars at fordparts.com, though there may be some overlap with other models
There were changes to:
The piston cooling nozzles as of April 9th.
The PCM as of mid-April (some ambiguity here for the date(s))
Headlight wiring harness on April 19th (w HIDs)
Positive battery cable on April 29th
The H-pipe changed May 10th.
Headlight wiring harness on May 10th (w halogens)
Steering rack on May 13th
ABS electronic control module on May 13th
Rear Quarter panel molding (convertible) on June 1st
Illuminated door sill plates on June 4th
Audio unit display (all except EC) on June 15th
Front lower control arms on June 16th
Brake pedal assy (MT - metallic trim) on June 17th
Brake pedal assy (MT - standard trim) on June 21st
Seat belts (front - coupe) on July 29th
Door interior trim panel (the hard plastic one) on Aug. 3rd NO LONGER LISTED AS A MOD
Door latch striker plate on Aug. 3rd
Differentiated for Job 2
There is a differentiation for the complete engine assembly, but not for the short block.
Head assy (with valves, less cams)
Camshaft timing gears (Int./Ex.) (Cams aren't changed) [NO LONGER LISTED AS A MOD]
Vapor canister
Steering wheel airbag clock spring
Headlight wiring harness (for the 2nd time, all)
Various wiring harnesses
Starter harness (MT)
Fuse box mount bracket
Base model radio
Back up lamp switch (man. trans.)
Accessory belt tensioner
Engine coolant overflow hose
Engine air box
Engine air box hose
Fuel tank sending harness
ABS hydraulic control module
ABS electronic control module (for the 2nd time)
Brake splash shield (perf. brakes)
Brake hydraulic lines (rear) - ABS module to firewall
Brake master cylinder
LF and RF brake hoses
Illuminated door sill plates ("Mustang" only)
Door latch striker plate (for the 2nd time)
Brake pedal assy (man and auto) (man for the 2nd time)
Dash pad
Interior Deck mat (coupe)
Front lower interior cowl trim panel (left side)
Air bag module (passenger side only)
A/C evaporator expansion valve
HVAC blend door motor (some models)
Seat cushion valence
Steering rack (for the 2nd time)
Manual transmission (no details on which internals were changed)
There were changes to:
The piston cooling nozzles as of April 9th.
The PCM as of mid-April (some ambiguity here for the date(s))
Headlight wiring harness on April 19th (w HIDs)
Positive battery cable on April 29th
The H-pipe changed May 10th.
Headlight wiring harness on May 10th (w halogens)
Steering rack on May 13th
ABS electronic control module on May 13th
Rear Quarter panel molding (convertible) on June 1st
Illuminated door sill plates on June 4th
Audio unit display (all except EC) on June 15th
Front lower control arms on June 16th
Brake pedal assy (MT - metallic trim) on June 17th
Brake pedal assy (MT - standard trim) on June 21st
Seat belts (front - coupe) on July 29th
Door interior trim panel (the hard plastic one) on Aug. 3rd NO LONGER LISTED AS A MOD
Door latch striker plate on Aug. 3rd
Differentiated for Job 2
There is a differentiation for the complete engine assembly, but not for the short block.
Head assy (with valves, less cams)
Camshaft timing gears (Int./Ex.) (Cams aren't changed) [NO LONGER LISTED AS A MOD]
Vapor canister
Steering wheel airbag clock spring
Headlight wiring harness (for the 2nd time, all)
Various wiring harnesses
Starter harness (MT)
Fuse box mount bracket
Base model radio
Back up lamp switch (man. trans.)
Accessory belt tensioner
Engine coolant overflow hose
Engine air box
Engine air box hose
Fuel tank sending harness
ABS hydraulic control module
ABS electronic control module (for the 2nd time)
Brake splash shield (perf. brakes)
Brake hydraulic lines (rear) - ABS module to firewall
Brake master cylinder
LF and RF brake hoses
Illuminated door sill plates ("Mustang" only)
Door latch striker plate (for the 2nd time)
Brake pedal assy (man and auto) (man for the 2nd time)
Dash pad
Interior Deck mat (coupe)
Front lower interior cowl trim panel (left side)
Air bag module (passenger side only)
A/C evaporator expansion valve
HVAC blend door motor (some models)
Seat cushion valence
Steering rack (for the 2nd time)
Manual transmission (no details on which internals were changed)
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8/6/10, 12:02 PM
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All right, you made me look up my previous post. Here it is:
I work "in" a Ford plant, and am involved often when there is engineering changes (Edge/MkX/Flex/MkT). Like I said, changes are made all the time.
8/6/10, 12:07 PM
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The only way to know for certain which changes were actually made would be to look at the vehicle's bill of materials of a car made Aug 15 and one made the day after.
I work "in" a Ford plant, and am involved often when there is engineering changes (Edge/MkX/Flex/MkT). Like I said, changes are made all the time.
I work "in" a Ford plant, and am involved often when there is engineering changes (Edge/MkX/Flex/MkT). Like I said, changes are made all the time.
8/6/10, 12:13 PM
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... and in reality, (not to panic anyone, because it's just the nature of the business) not all changes are for the benefit of the customer. Some are for cost-savings.