SelectShift: Pros & Cons
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There is no problem with the 2013 - 2014 auto tranny. It is just what the expectations are and how it is used.
Want to be able to just cruise and go fast. Put it in D. And you're faster then most other cars on the road.
Want to go really quick with engine braking and very responsive down shifts when you step on it : put it in sport mode and leave it there. You're going to be faster then most cars on the road. You're probably really quick on the drag strip.
Want to drive in the mountains, if you want, you can use the seleshift. But it will never be as fast as a stick shift or, let's say the paddle shifters of a Nissan 370Z. But it is not bad! Not bad at all! You just need to know how to use it, and understand that the seleshift was never intended to be used to race.
Want to be able to just cruise and go fast. Put it in D. And you're faster then most other cars on the road.
Want to go really quick with engine braking and very responsive down shifts when you step on it : put it in sport mode and leave it there. You're going to be faster then most cars on the road. You're probably really quick on the drag strip.
Want to drive in the mountains, if you want, you can use the seleshift. But it will never be as fast as a stick shift or, let's say the paddle shifters of a Nissan 370Z. But it is not bad! Not bad at all! You just need to know how to use it, and understand that the seleshift was never intended to be used to race.
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Plim, well stated.
Now, if there was a tune available for SelectShift to firm up the shifts and quicken response to gear changes, life (in the fast lane) would be even better.
I know that tunes are available that do firm up gear changes in "Drive", but I don't think those tunes effect SelectShift at all.
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Now, if there was a tune available for SelectShift to firm up the shifts and quicken response to gear changes, life (in the fast lane) would be even better.
I know that tunes are available that do firm up gear changes in "Drive", but I don't think those tunes effect SelectShift at all.
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I live in an area with lots of hills and mountains. When I go up or down a small winding road, I shift it myself, as I have the possibility to just leave it in second gear.
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BTW, approximate speeds in gears (informal testing): 40 mph, 70 mph, 110 mph, and 4th (calculated) 150 mph. I assume it won't pull 5th gear.
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6th gear is extremely tall. In 6th gear at 2000 rpm, my speedo reads 70mph. Extrapolating a bit, 4000 rpm is 140 mph (if 6th would pull it) and 6000 grand =210 mph. With a redline of 6800 rpm, you can see that 6th gear is designed for steady cruising to minimize fuel consumption. BTW, approximate speeds in gears (informal testing): 40 mph, 70 mph, 110 mph, and 4th (calculated) 150 mph. I assume it won't pull 5th gear. Dave
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I don't know I just seem to read a lot of people saying a tune makes the auto how it should have been from the factory. I don'thear many people saging they like the auto as is. I guess I read a lot of people with the manual complaining of grinding also. Ive never had an auto so I guess I will see when my car arrives. I don't want to have to mess with a tune but I keep reading how great a tune makes the auto.
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I don't know I just seem to read a lot of people saying a tune makes the auto how it should have been from the factory. I don'thear many people saging they like the auto as is. I guess I read a lot of people with the manual complaining of grinding also. Ive never had an auto so I guess I will see when my car arrives. I don't want to have to mess with a tune but I keep reading how great a tune makes the auto.
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I did test drive it BEFORE iI ordered however the sales guy was not going to appreciate me driving it like I stole it so im trying to get more realworld opinnions from those driving the auto without a BBABY SITTER.
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FWIW, I test drove a 348 hp Hyundai Genesis Coupe and the GT Mustang. Both cars hit the triple digits on a limited access highway.
Both salesman seemed to enjoy the experience. One sent me an email to that effect.
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Both salesman seemed to enjoy the experience. One sent me an email to that effect.
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I know in the stone age when you let off the gas in an auto then got back on the gas it would eventually tear something up in the tranny. I do know letting off the gas does make these new ones shift faster, but worry you can do damage like in the older ones. Are my worries unfounded?
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Typically, stock "slow" shifting transmissions can be adjusted by a tuner to shift much quicker. This is only an advantage if you are racing; it will lower your ET in drag racing.
From reading this forum, the 6 speed auto trans on the 5.0 seems to be quite durable.
Have fun,
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I know in the stone age when you let off the gas in an auto then got back on the gas it would eventually tear something up in the tranny. I do know letting off the gas does make these new ones shift faster, but worry you can do damage like in the older ones. Are my worries unfounded?
Today's autos are electronically controlled, so I expect their programming prevents damage that might have occurred with the older mechanical designs.
The Mustang's 6R80 trans has a growing reputation for being very strong, as Dave mentioned above.
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I like the concept.
This could be just the ticket for racing your buddy who has an old fashioned manual transmission.
Actually, I was thinking something similar: driving out of the hole locked in 1st to finesse the wheelspin, then shifting to Drive.
Some of the drag racers must have tried this........
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This could be just the ticket for racing your buddy who has an old fashioned manual transmission.
Actually, I was thinking something similar: driving out of the hole locked in 1st to finesse the wheelspin, then shifting to Drive.
Some of the drag racers must have tried this........
Dave
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So my drive included quite a bit of illegal speeds, some very quick starts and those kinds of things.
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I know in the stone age when you let off the gas in an auto then got back on the gas it would eventually tear something up in the tranny. I do know letting off the gas does make these new ones shift faster, but worry you can do damage like in the older ones. Are my worries unfounded?
You let of the gas if you shift manually using the seleshift, to make it engage in gear quicker. But it's never going to be faster than S. Just use seleshift for mountain driving and such.
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There seem to be a lot of misunderstanding about this automatic transmission as found in the 2013 and 2014 models,
In S mode, the transmission shifts very well. In fact I would bet that a standard V8 automatic will make a better quarter mile time than stock manual V8.
The seleshift part of the transmission is a means to make manual shifts. However, not as fast as in S, when it does it automatically, nor nowhere as fast as you can do yourself in a manual car.
What is the seleshift ideal for? Driving in the mountains. Going up the mountain, as wel as going down. Or in small twisty sections of a road, where you can leave the transmission engaged in a gear
Are there better automatics out there? Yes. Nissan 370Z, Porsche, Ferrari, etc. but a car that you can buy for low 20's with an automatic? NO, probably not, because this transmission is not bad at all!
In S mode, the transmission shifts very well. In fact I would bet that a standard V8 automatic will make a better quarter mile time than stock manual V8.
The seleshift part of the transmission is a means to make manual shifts. However, not as fast as in S, when it does it automatically, nor nowhere as fast as you can do yourself in a manual car.
What is the seleshift ideal for? Driving in the mountains. Going up the mountain, as wel as going down. Or in small twisty sections of a road, where you can leave the transmission engaged in a gear
Are there better automatics out there? Yes. Nissan 370Z, Porsche, Ferrari, etc. but a car that you can buy for low 20's with an automatic? NO, probably not, because this transmission is not bad at all!
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I bought the automatic because my wife has not driven a stick since 1994 and she may have to drive my car in an emergency. But after driving it, I REALLY like it a lot. I do wish it shifted faster/firmer but I can live with it like it is.