Its called "a sense of entitlement". Just like when I was in the car business and people would drive up in their taurus and proceed to tell me they HAD to have 4WD.
Some of these people could be given a GT500 and they would complain about the color.

 

My 2009 Cobalt SS Turbocharged as electric power assist. It only kicks out power when you're doing low speed stuff. On the highway, you get a lot of feel. It's not an electronic steering system. It's electric power assist, which means you still have the mechanical linkages - with the addition of a motor under the dash. A LOT of cars have electric steering power assist, this is not new technology. I don't like or hate it, it just works well on my Cobalt and the Mazdaspeed3. If it means not having a power sapping hydraulic system, then it's great for power and fuel economy!

 

Thats what i keep telling myself.

 

That was quick.. only took about 30 years for Ford to offer a V6 that's not a joke. Well done.

 

December 2nd would be my guess as well, but you never know.

 

Hey Boomer, just a thought....Isn't the new V6 Mustang rated on 87 octane like pretty much every other mainstream Ford offering? If it is, and if the timing is retarded a little to prevent detonation when 87 octane juice is in the tank, what do you think a tank full of premium would net us over the 305hp rating? What would you guess, another five or ten hp or so? Just thinking out loud.

 

Since the Mustang V6 is rated at 305hp...just one more (although still more hp) than the base Camaro, I would love to see the 5.0 come out with 427hp just to add insult to injury!

 

Well to be honest, Ford's a dollar short and a day late with the 305 hp V6. GM and Nissan beat Ford to the punch with 300+ hp N/A V6's years ago. Ford took their time getting the 3.5/3.7 out to more of its cars. Ford's just doing a decent job with the marketing/PR to make people believe this 305 hp V6 is revolutionary. It also shows how pitifully underpowered the modular V8 engines are. My 4.6L 2V V8 made only 285 ft-lb of torque at 3500-4000 RPM from the factory, yet this N/A 3.7L V6 makes 280 ft-lb of torque.

 

The Ford 6.2L Boss V8 will make only 411 hp. It's unlikely Ford will make the 5.0L Coyote produce more power than a 6.2L truck engine. I'm guessing 340-360 hp is the target for the production Coyote.

 

Do remember that the 5.0L truck engine will be quite a bit different in terms of final trim than the 5.0L we'll see in the Mustang. Just a thought.

 

yeah..maybe @ 3000rpm or something....

Pretty sure it is 87.
And people love quoting numbers, but really its WHERE the power comes in, and how long it goes before it starts running out of steam.

 

the current 5.4 3v on F150's doesn't kill the 4.6 3v. It's ridiculously easy for the 5.0 to beat those 6.2 numbers.

 

The 6.2L is setup and cammed for torque, not high revving HP. It probably murders the 5.0 in torque production.

 

360HP @ 3000 RPM = 630 Torque. Yeah, right.

 

It was a joke...

 

[quote=eci;5771512]360HP @ 3000 RPM = 630 Torque. Yeah, right.[/quote
Can't we just skip Dec. 1st and get to the man's stuff with the GT. Marketing, marketing....let's get to the point Ford, enough useless bla,bla,bla threads going on on Autoblog. What a bunch of loosers, for the most part. May even think selling my beloved '69 to get a 400HP car.

 

Where should we get the news on the GT first ? Autoblogor or else ?

 

No way Ford can come up with a 360HP GT car, it ain't gonna happen and sell. Too much is at stake here, they'll loose lot's of sale if that is the case. Let's hope they heard us loud and clear for once. We need the goods now.

 

Just playing around with some numbers.

Past GTs have typically had about 43% more HP than the V6s:

1994-1998 V6 = 150HP
1994-1998 GT = 215HP
150HP + 43% = 214.5 HP

1999-2004 V6 = 190HP
1999-2004 GT = 260HP
190HP + 43% = 271HP

2005-2009 V6 = 210HP
2005-2009 GT = 300HP
210HP + 43% = 300HP

so if we follow that for the new car:
2011 V6 305HP + 43% = 436HP for the 5.0

Just playing with some numbers. Certainly makes the idea of a 360HP 5.0 (which would only be 18% higher than the V6) seem pretty far-fetched. I also realize that peak HP is just a small part of what makes a car fast/fun to drive, but at the same time it is crucial from a marketing perspective.

 

You just said a key word here: MARKETING, and Ford needs it's bad right now.