2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

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Old 6/21/10 | 09:36 PM
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My ride is here-Black GT

Got a call from my rep around 4:30

Coming off the truck. Got there within 1/2 hour.

He was with a customer and threw me the keys and dealer plates and said drive it as much as you want

Took lots of pic's (coming later as I can't get my new Kodak camara to sync to Vista properely)

Had 8 Km on it. Put another 30KM on it. Was not cleaned etc. Plastic crap all over the place. Filthy. Did not care. Did not know how to work half the stuff. Had no gas so put 20 bucks in it.

Figured out to set the Nav for where I was and the touch screen A/C. Was very hot outside

Wow what a car. Took it easy. Blew one guy away when he came out of gas station right in front of me. Looked in the mirror and the convex one, no blind spot, and popped into 3rd and blew by him.

Only commets is that this is not like a old Windsor 5.0. Low end torque. Gotta wind this one up.

2011 GT|Black|NAV|GLASS ROOF|PERFORMANCE PACKAGE|SECURITY PACKAGE|3.73|REAR VIDEO CAMARA|2011
Ordered 4/23|built 5/18|delivered to dealer 6/21.
Canadian Order-Just outside Toronto
Just as a note. Arrived a week earlier then Ford CS told me on Friday (however a month late from first ETA)
Old 6/21/10 | 09:44 PM
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congrats.. black looks awesome on this body style..
Old 6/22/10 | 12:04 AM
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Why don't people complain about low end torque on the 4.6's? If I'm not mistaken this car should make well over 70 lb/ft more at similar rpms.
Old 6/22/10 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jokerstars
Why don't people complain about low end torque on the 4.6's? If I'm not mistaken this car should make well over 70 lb/ft more at similar rpms.
I don't think people ever expected as much out of the 4.6. The 5.0 has so much built up expectation, if it doesn't instantly cause an orgasm upon launch it's a disappointment.

The 4.6 lacked low end torque without gears or mods. It didn't spool up well till after 3-3.5k.
Old 6/22/10 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by stevmack

Only commets is that this is not like a old Windsor 5.0. Low end torque. Gotta wind this one up.
Congratulations!!

Btw, I've owned about as many Windsor 5.0/302 pushrod engined cars than I have fingers (and I have all 10 of 'em) in Mustangs, F150's, Cougar XR7, etc. Stock, those engines did produce good torque and response down low. Problem was, they pretty much fell flat on their face after about 3,500.

My 2011 Mustang GT 6-speed auto is much more responsive down low than any of my stock 5.0 OHV Windsors. It's also much more responsive down low in the RPM's than my 2010 GT 5-speed manual.
Old 6/22/10 | 01:21 AM
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Congrats! Can't wait to see the pics
Old 6/22/10 | 02:43 AM
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Dude,

Pics or fail. Post them up. I love black but dang.
Old 6/22/10 | 05:17 AM
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Congrats!
Old 6/22/10 | 07:41 AM
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Old 6/22/10 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jokerstars
Why don't people complain about low end torque on the 4.6's? If I'm not mistaken this car should make well over 70 lb/ft more at similar rpms.
In 1996 when Ford switched from the 5.0 Windsor everyone complained about low end torque .... then got used to it I guess.
Old 6/22/10 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dmhines
In 1996 when Ford switched from the 5.0 Windsor everyone complained about low end torque .... then got used to it I guess.
Everything in life is a balance. Going to OHC means smoother performance but giving up the grunt down low. Oh well, I like the OHC engines. Look at all the HiPo vehicles of the world, not torque monsters but Hp junkies. Mustang is probably about the best of both worlds you can get.

Just think you could find an old Cummins, plenty of Torque, almost no Hp and a 2700 RPM redline! There's the torque!
Old 6/22/10 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Automagically
Everything in life is a balance. Going to OHC means smoother performance but giving up the grunt down low. Oh well, I like the OHC engines. Look at all the HiPo vehicles of the world, not torque monsters but Hp junkies. Mustang is probably about the best of both worlds you can get.

Just think you could find an old Cummins, plenty of Torque, almost no Hp and a 2700 RPM redline! There's the torque!
Agree the '11 Mustang is probably the best of both worlds, thanks to its displacement and TiVCT (and head flow).

Not really an issue but it's been my experience that low-end torque is typically affected (negatively) not so much by whether the valve train is OHV or OHC, but how many valves the heads have and how well the heads breathe. If you go from a 2V OHV engine to a 2V OHC engine, all other things being equal, the torque should be the same. If you go from a 2V engine to a 4V engine, regardless whether it's OHV or OHC, you'll typically reduce low-speed torque and see it move further up in the RPM band (and higher horsepower in the upper RPM band).

In '96, not only did Ford switch from 2V OHV to 2V OHC, they reduced displacement (4.9L/5.0L to 4.6L) -- and that probably affected low-end torque more than anything (no substitute for cubic inches as the old saving goes).

As for the Cummins turbo diesel, I've had 3 of 'em (5-speed manuals) in Dodge Ram pickups and they're stump-pullers. They make a ton of torque and most of it is just off idle ...nothing like it when you're pulling something. Love it.
Old 6/22/10 | 05:50 PM
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Grats Steve, we now need pics for validation.
Old 6/22/10 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jokerstars
Why don't people complain about low end torque on the 4.6's? If I'm not mistaken this car should make well over 70 lb/ft more at similar rpms.
I'd love to see a torque curve for a stock 4.6 and a stock 5.0. I am hoping the new engine is putting out 50+ more foot pounds in the 2,000 rpm range. I owned a 2004 Mach 1 with the 32 valve V8. That engive was stellar above 4,000 but not so impressive below that.

Greg
Old 6/22/10 | 07:27 PM
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Thanks all for your comments

My car is getting detailed at the dealer and will have Thursday. (also arranging money transfer as well) Man it was dirty. Wheels were covered in mud. Must have been sitting in a field.

Will sent pic's then.

More comments on the new 5.0. Ok, I only drove it about 30k and did not got above 4500 RPM. God she only had 8k on her. Being 48 I was afraid to push her. Break in is in my ingrained in my mind.

Also never owned a high rev engine like European or Asian cars before.

I had a 1985 GT Cobra for almost 20 years with the old cast engine, Windsor, and marine cam, borg warner tranny and heavy duty clutch. Oh and the last year of the 4 barrel Holly carb. Tranny was great. Heavy duty clutch wore my leg out.

So just need to get used to it. Not be afraid to punch her!!

But wow what a sound and fit and finish is amazing!

And even at only running at 4500 RPM, she went like heck!!

Very happy.



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Old 6/22/10 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Gregor111
I'd love to see a torque curve for a stock 4.6 and a stock 5.0. I am hoping the new engine is putting out 50+ more foot pounds in the 2,000 rpm range. I owned a 2004 Mach 1 with the 32 valve V8. That engive was stellar above 4,000 but not so impressive below that.

Greg
Here's the link to a thread that contains dyno charts for a 4.6L and the '11 5.0:

https://themustangsource.com/f800/ca...d-test-481756/
Old 6/26/10 | 11:57 PM
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OK 3 days and counting.............

Day 1-Little rusty on the stick. Although I have driven sticks all my life including the "windsor"" Mustangs, and heavy equipment. But not a lot recently. Wow I was bad. Never missed a shift or stalled. Clutch is so light and tranny is not forgiving. Easy to go from 5th to 2nd when you wanted to hit 4th. Figured that out pretty fast. Also I as not that aggressive. Actually did not feel good and was disapointed

Day 2-Started off the day same as day one. However picked up a friend who has a Porche. Let him drive. Holly crap he synced right in this car to make it go had to be spin up. Leaned a lot. Drove around a lot that day. Got used to the clutch and tranny. I live north so have lots of rural roads. Me and and roomate took her out for a couple of hours last night. Ok got it figured out. Got her over 100MPh in 4th gear. Gotta be carefull here on the speeds. Over 50 KMH and you are considered racing and huge fines a 10 day impound.

3rd day-Rained untill this evening. Black so left her in the garage. Rain stopped. Roads dried. Took her for another spin north Rural roads. Now used to the clutch and tranny. No issues.

Overall review-Man this car goes!! But gotta wind her up. Being a old guy with North American rides not used to that. Clutch incredably light. Tranny incredably short. Fit and finish is fantastic. Also this a amazng looking car.
Having some issues with the Nav/Sync but sure I will figure it out

Wanted a 5.0 since my last in 1985 (great car) I was 23 then. Paid 11 grand for it. Which was a lot back then. Now close to 50 and I am in heaven.

Steve
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