My Ford Dealer took my order for 2010 for Grabber Blue GT today,
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They did add almost $2000 to the price tag from the 04/05 jump. (from $23,870 base GT to $25,570) Although not a lot, it might be close to what we see with the 09/10 jump. Then probably another small jump from 10/11.
I'm not saying you wrong that it'd be very stupid of Ford to raise the price so dramatically, but the bean counters at Ford has forced some very stupid decisions in the past, I'm not surprised by anything they do, or don't do for that matter.
I'm not saying you wrong that it'd be very stupid of Ford to raise the price so dramatically, but the bean counters at Ford has forced some very stupid decisions in the past, I'm not surprised by anything they do, or don't do for that matter.
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They did add almost $2000 to the price tag from the 04/05 jump. (from $23,870 base GT to $25,570) Although not a lot, it might be close to what we see with the 09/10 jump. Then probably another small jump from 10/11.
I'm not saying you wrong that it'd be very stupid of Ford to raise the price so dramatically, but the bean counters at Ford has forced some very stupid decisions in the past, I'm not surprised by anything they do, or don't do for that matter.
I'm not saying you wrong that it'd be very stupid of Ford to raise the price so dramatically, but the bean counters at Ford has forced some very stupid decisions in the past, I'm not surprised by anything they do, or don't do for that matter.
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Your right, they will still sell, just not even close to as many as they do now or in the past. It would be a very stupid decision by Ford and if it happens, its the end.
But based on your assertions, why didnt the 2005 cost tons more than the 2004 despite new body and powertrain?
But based on your assertions, why didnt the 2005 cost tons more than the 2004 despite new body and powertrain?
The powertrain really wasn't new, but a reapplication of the head technology that already was on the Ford F series truck line.
We really don't know what the market will bear at this point for a price point. One can presume that the pricing on the Camaro will be a benchmark, and the finance and accounting people are furiously finalizing pricing even as we speak.
At this moment in time, raw material costs are most likely more than before, so this would obviously influence the final prices.
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I heard people mention on this forum that the jump wasnt that great. But even if it was, that was an all new body and powertrain, interior, everything! This uses the exact same chassis with new sheet metal and an upgraded interior. The 5.0 is a progression of the modular family and will also be used in the trucks and suvs. It can't cost that much more or those same bean counters would have never greenlighted this in the first place. I wouldnt doubt it if they have been able cut the cost of manufacturing due to technology advancements over the past few years.
However, I do believe the Challenger and Camaro pricing both will act as a counterbalancing force to too dramatic of a difference.
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Engineering and testing time (new 5.0L, evolution of existing 4.6L and 5.4L), along with raw material price increases, no doubt will add up. Amortized over what might be lower volumes, one might see a bigger cost increase than the original jump from the SN-95 to the S197.
However, I do believe the Challenger and Camaro pricing both will act as a counterbalancing force to too dramatic of a difference.
However, I do believe the Challenger and Camaro pricing both will act as a counterbalancing force to too dramatic of a difference.
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wow, maybe I am not that familiar with the automotive industry, but I would have never thought a dealership would be taking deposits this soon in a 2010 model year vehicle. I could see putting names on a list, and then when the time comes take a deposit when options are decided upon, etc. Just seems odd to me to take a deposite sooo soon.
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wow, maybe I am not that familiar with the automotive industry, but I would have never thought a dealership would be taking deposits this soon in a 2010 model year vehicle. I could see putting names on a list, and then when the time comes take a deposit when options are decided upon, etc. Just seems odd to me to take a deposite sooo soon.
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Oh wow...I am not questioning the theory because I obviously know much less than people in the industry, it just surprised me I guess...thanks for the insight!
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Cliff, it isn't that common. We don't take ANY money for a car that doesn't exist yet! When the order guides come out for the car, then we would accept deposits for orders. But not until that day! Taking names on a list, is a nice way to do it, but to take money from someone, on a car that won't be out for several months (in this case, not till April), is wrong. Your letting the dealer earn the interest on the money you gave them. Just my $.02. ![Thumb](https://themustangsource.com/forums/images/smilies/thumb.gif)
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Cliff, most dealers will give them back to you, as long as the customer didn't order some oddball vehicle (base stick-shift Ranger, with no A/C). Most places will have a spot for the customer to sign, stating that if they fail to take delivery, they forfeit the deposit. Mostly though, the dealer holds onto the money until the vehicle is sold. But on 99% of sales, they would give the deposit back, as its bad for business, and if people hear about a dealer who doesn't refund deposits, they will get SERIOUS flak from customers.
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Cliff, most dealers will give them back to you, as long as the customer didn't order some oddball vehicle (base stick-shift Ranger, with no A/C). Most places will have a spot for the customer to sign, stating that if they fail to take delivery, they forfeit the deposit. Mostly though, the dealer holds onto the money until the vehicle is sold. But on 99% of sales, they would give the deposit back, as its bad for business, and if people hear about a dealer who doesn't refund deposits, they will get SERIOUS flak from customers.
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Cliff, most dealers will give them back to you, as long as the customer didn't order some oddball vehicle (base stick-shift Ranger, with no A/C). Most places will have a spot for the customer to sign, stating that if they fail to take delivery, they forfeit the deposit. Mostly though, the dealer holds onto the money until the vehicle is sold. But on 99% of sales, they would give the deposit back, as its bad for business, and if people hear about a dealer who doesn't refund deposits, they will get SERIOUS flak from customers.
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Cliff, most dealers will give them back to you, as long as the customer didn't order some oddball vehicle (base stick-shift Ranger, with no A/C). Most places will have a spot for the customer to sign, stating that if they fail to take delivery, they forfeit the deposit. Mostly though, the dealer holds onto the money until the vehicle is sold. But on 99% of sales, they would give the deposit back, as its bad for business, and if people hear about a dealer who doesn't refund deposits, they will get SERIOUS flak from customers.