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Old 8/6/12 | 12:50 AM
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lol, what an offending thread title!
Old 8/6/12 | 01:51 AM
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What about these, my only concern would be all the air they will grab.
http://www.americanmuscle.com/unpain...oops-1013.html
Yes u might get a wind tunnel noise as it catches air
Old 8/6/12 | 04:43 AM
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Interesting tidbit... I had a 94 GT new and the vents/scoops in front of the rear wheels were actually fucntional. The grills in them were open (honeycomb pattern had holes not sealed off), and there was a rectangle shaped louver inside the wheel well connected to the side scoops that forced the air upward into the wheel well, in front of the rear tires. I noticed in 95 that ford closed these off, replacing the inserts in the scoops with a solid grill, must have been a cost saving measure.
Old 8/6/12 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by stevegt2012
Neither the hood scoop or the side scoops on my 1966 GT350 were fake.
He didn't say all scoops were fake, he said Mustangs have always had fake scoops, which is a true statement.
Old 8/6/12 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by rm2092
I have, I guess Ill just keep my eye out for a set of used ones ?
You did not specify a price range, so I'll assume you're looking at a particular price range?

Remember, if you find a set used, most likely they will not be your color, so having them painted (unless you have your own paint booth type arrangements) will add to the price before they get to the "install" point. There are risks of buying used...poor paint, hairline cracks in the paint, hiden damage when the previous owner removed them, etc.

Buy new, you get a warranty. Buy used, no warranty.
Old 8/6/12 | 06:37 AM
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If you are going to do this do it the right way and buy the Shaker hood scoop or aftermarket hood with one built in. Don't buy the Ford crap that looks like it came from your local PepBoys.

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Old 8/6/12 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jsimmons
He didn't say all scoops were fake, he said Mustangs have always had fake scoops, which is a true statement.
Thank you....
Old 8/6/12 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jsimmons
He didn't say all scoops were fake, he said Mustangs have always had fake scoops, which is a true statement.
Is it?

Care to show me a 64 Mustang with a factory fake scoop?

In fact, I'm having a really hard time trying to think of any year Mustang that did have a fake hood scoop prior to the Mustang IIs.
Old 8/6/12 | 10:23 AM
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Oh I guess I should have said Most Mustangs have had fake Hood and side scoops so lets not start a war here.
Old 8/6/12 | 10:50 AM
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I'm still trying to understand why the thread was titled as such; was it a preemptive strike against people telling him the fake scoops look like garbage? If so, have to say...just because some, even most, mustang models have appearance-only side and hood scoops doesn't mean they're any better than if his car was the only one that has them. Looks for the sake of looks that actually hinder performance in any way is always a bad idea. Scoops included. Pointless.
Old 8/6/12 | 11:12 AM
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I just made a comment about fake scoops and I was thinking of adding the side ones to my car regardless of them be functional thats all.
Old 8/6/12 | 11:23 AM
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Looks like many of us woke up on the wrong side of the bed this week.....
Old 8/6/12 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Moustang
Is it?

Care to show me a 64 Mustang with a factory fake scoop?

In fact, I'm having a really hard time trying to think of any year Mustang that did have a fake hood scoop prior to the Mustang IIs.
My 1st car was a 1971 Mach I with the 351 2 barrel. It didn't have the Ram Air induction but the hood still had the 2 non-functional scoops.
Old 8/6/12 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Moustang
Is it?

Care to show me a 64 Mustang with a factory fake scoop?

In fact, I'm having a really hard time trying to think of any year Mustang that did have a fake hood scoop prior to the Mustang IIs.
1965-66 GT350 - side scoops were non-functional except for R-Model (and the R-Models only had one side scoop at first)

1967-68 Shelby - non-functional side scoops (both quarter window and side scoops)

1967/68 Mustangs even had non-function heat extractors in the hoods (used to house concealed turn signals).

1969 Mustang - non-functional bold-on hood scoop (351W cars), non-function rear quarter scoops (all '69s). On Shelbys, the rear scoops were obviously glued on and looked like crap

1970 Mustang - side-scoops removed, but front headlight buckets included non-functional brake-cooling scoops outboard of headlights

1971-72 - the "Ram Air hood was available with functional and non functional NACA ducts.

1973-79 - Cobras (and non-Cobras) had non-functional hood scoops

1980-present - Non-functional hood scoops

I realize there were 1964-1/2 cars, but for the sake of the argument I consider them to be rolled in with the 1965 model year.

And in the interest of completeness, I don't count the Mustang prototype (the little 2-seater with a 4cyl motor and adjustable pedals) because it was not a production car (it had radiators cooled through side ducts in front of the rear wheels).

So, every model year of Mustang has been available with non-functional scoops in one form or another. If you wanted to be pedantic, you could even claim that the Mustang's very bodywork implied a scoop where non existed, just in front of the rear wheel, and this applies to most of the versions with the possible exception of 1969-72 and the Fox body cars.
Old 8/6/12 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rm2092
Oh I guess I should have said Most Mustangs have had fake Hood and side scoops so lets not start a war here.
It's not a war, it's merely a case of someone remembering wrong and me correcting them.

And to be even more pedantic, the scoops aren't fake - they're "non-functional".

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Old 8/6/12 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rm2092
I just made a comment about fake scoops and I was thinking of adding the side ones to my car regardless of them be functional thats all.
If you want the side scoops, go ahead and add them. Nobody else's opinion matters except yours. I have 'em on my car, but they're from 3D Carbon and I don't like the Vinyl faux grille applique they use. I believe the OEM ones have a grille insert in them which looks 1000% better.
Old 8/6/12 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kcoTiger
I'm still trying to understand why the thread was titled as such; was it a preemptive strike against people telling him the fake scoops look like garbage? If so, have to say...just because some, even most, mustang models have appearance-only side and hood scoops doesn't mean they're any better than if his car was the only one that has them. Looks for the sake of looks that actually hinder performance in any way is always a bad idea. Scoops included. Pointless.
+1 I've never liked the way type hood scoops look on the newer mustangs, add in them being non-functional and its just a lose lose IMO. Doesn't look good, isn't functional, not aerodynamic. All of my previous cars have had hood scoops and all of then served a purpose, well until I put a front mount intercooler on my wrx, but I was about to buy a scoop delete before I got rid of it.

Still, not a fan of fake scoops. Not saying you shouldn't do it, its your car you paid for it. As far as I'm concerned you could paint it baby turd green with pink accents and put wings scoops and those little fender vents from AutoZone on it while you're at it. I might point and laugh at your car as you drive by but I won't tell you that you can't do it.

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Old 8/9/12 | 10:48 AM
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I could get a set primed for like $200.00 and then Im sure a body shop will want about the same to paint them so not sure if that mod is worth $400.00 ?
Yea I mean the quarter panel covers and side scoops from the dealer when ordered were only $450.
Old 8/10/12 | 12:29 AM
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My 84 SVO I had.


Beautiful SVO! One day mine will be pretty again.
Old 8/10/12 | 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by kcoTiger
I'm still trying to understand why the thread was titled as such; was it a preemptive strike against people telling him the fake scoops look like garbage? If so, have to say...just because some, even most, mustang models have appearance-only side and hood scoops doesn't mean they're any better than if his car was the only one that has them. Looks for the sake of looks that actually hinder performance in any way is always a bad idea. Scoops included. Pointless.
The side scoops don't "hinder performance". They're so light as to not make a difference, and the way air flows around the body, the scoops don't stick out enough to have any tangible impact on aerodynamics. The same goes for most hood scoops. To take advantage of the air coming up over the hood (or to "hinder performance"), the scoop openings almost have to be right AT the leading edge of the hood and be too tall to look decent. Again, the added weight of a hood scoop is going to have no impact on top speed.

If you want to talk about "pointless", let's talk about the back seat, or the two-piece drive shaft.


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