I've owned a variety of Ford performance vehicles over the years (yes, I'm old!) , both boosted and naturally aspirated and loved them all -- But I prefer the V8 cars for sound, power and feel. Although the SC had monster Torgue (340 lbs) and would out
pull a 5 liter mustang in 3rd gear, but it sounded like a tractor.

-- '84 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe (5spd)
-- '86 Mustang SVO
-- '89 Mustang GT (5spd)
-- '91 Thunderbird SC (5spd)
-- '95 SVT Cobra
-- '99 SVT Cobra
-- '05 Mustang GT (5spd)

 

A lot of these new FWD Asian coupes are running low 14's. Hyundai is coming out with a 310hp RWD V6 Coupe for 2010, and its going to cost around $25k!
These are inexpensive cars with good performance. They are an inch away from our 300hp Mustang GT.

The American company's need to raise the bar with their new GDI V6's & V8's. Especially the V8's.
My source told me to wait for the 2011MY Mustang with the GDI V8, and as of right now, that is what I am going to do.

05SatinGT, that is a great list of cars!

 

Those old detuned V8's of the 1970's and early 80's are just a victim of the times when the industry wrote off performance. Fortunately, anyone can turn these vehicles into a hotrod if they want to by making the appropriate mods. However, nothing can compensate for the shortcomings of ride and handling that come with modern engineering.

As far as smaller displacement engines go, I am all for getting the most horsepower and torque out of the smallest engine possible. This is what I call efficient engineering. The things that can be done with four and six cylinder engines should not be ignored. Other specialty and sports cars for years have respected credibility for making powerful smaller displacement engines. Why shouldn't Ford?

Certainly Ford should keep the V8 as a choice for those who prefer it. I have never been a power ***** so I am quite happy with my V6 that will outperform Mustang V8's of the past. I am more of a laid back cruiser than a street racer. The Mustang V6 has adaquate power to get out of it's own way and not be a slug at the stop light. Buying the V6 Mustang does not make me feel I have made a sacrifice. I wanted my car to have affordable payments and insurance while focusing on style, comfort and good performance. Sure no holds barred I would prefer a V8 but I have many other priorities in life to consider.

 

The trouble with a Hyundai--any Hyundai--is that if you can see yourself in a Hyundai, others probably already see you in a Hyundai...Get help.

 

Twin Turbo 3.5L V6, 350hp, Shelby GT-350. It works.

 

97GT03SVT: A source, please!

 

The point I was trying to make is that the cheaper Asian cars are closing the performance gap with our American V8's. Plus, they are also FWD!
I've never owned a foreign car, and I don't plan to. But, there are a lot of people who aren't loyal to the American brands. Ford, GM & Chrysler need to step it up.

 

He posted a little excerpt from a motor trend article saying how it was approved for use. Whether or not it will be is another story. I'm still hoping the answer is no. It was on the front page of Motortrend.com as Fords way foward or something.

 

"Ward's 10 Best" Why don't you check out all the 6 cylinder engines on that list that make MORE power get better mpg and have slightly less torque. Those engines are also NA. Sure you can put a supercharger on the 4.6 and it might run good for a while but it was not designed to handle boost, the engine internals are weak (not forged) and a stock 4.6 with a supercharger would still get raped by a single turbo supra or a built GN.
The point I was trying to make is that the current engine leaves a lot to be desired. A built TT 6 (with forged internals) is a much better platform for performance than the current (not forged internals) 4.6L V8. Now if they would give us forged internals like the 03/04 cobra and forced induction on the 4.6L I would say hell yeah, but the reality is thats not likely to happen. My 03 Cobra makes 448 rwhp with just a pulley/tune, CAI, and catback at a cost of less than $ 1,000 dollars. Now to make a current car have the same power cost $5,000 to $6,000 dollars and you still don't have the forged internals that the Cobra has. If you have a properly built forced induction engine 6 cylinder or 8 adding power is easy..... just turn up the boost.

 

I'm with you on the "We've warmed the earth with SUV's and V8's" but what it really comes down to for me is the fact that when I had my Pontiac 400, my 1985 GT 5.0, my 1993 "notch" 5.0...etc gas prices were $1 per gallon. Today it's more about $4 gas by Summer and just plain ole "gotcha by the *****" Oil companies and the unrest it creates with middle east oil rich cartels...I mean countries. There has to be a change in MPG's...I know somewhere on a drawing board there's a 400HP 5.0 V8 that gets 35+mpg but it will never see the light of day because of bureaucratic BS. And now the same Aholes are touting Ethenol which burns up more energy than it creates. And don't get me started on the "dust bowl" it will cause and the fact that produce prices will skyrocket due to the fact that farmers are getting huge incentives to grow corn and they are forgetting about everything else. In the end, every industry has to start with a clean slate for all of us to benefit. I'm sick and tired of it falling on the automakers when other far more polluting and toxic large conglomerates get a free ticket to ride.

 

You don't know what you're talking about.

 

And you know why that is, don't you? Because those conglomerates employee lobbyists who have bought and paid for your government and now dictate policy.

Meanwhile, the rest of us - meaning Joe "Little Guy" - driving our cars, get screwed. Sh*t flows downhill.

 

Your the person who doesn't know what they are talking about. I can show you a number of stock block supra's that will make 600 rwhp or more. I bet you can't show me a single stock block 3v that makes over 600 rwhp. Why don't you do a little research before you open your mouth.

 

I can show you a stock block Terminator that makes over 900rwhp.

 

Yeah I know that... I own one.. But this guy seems to think that the stock block 3v can make the same power and still live as a forced induction engine with forged internals and he is wrong plain and simple.

 

Let's really dream big. Twin turbos AND a supercharger ! I wonder what broken parts we could run over then ?

 

Any chance of Ford offering a DSG transmission in the new Mustang? Those things can shift incredibly fast and seamless, and improve the mileage.

 

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/11/04/v...their-own-dsg/
Ford's working on DSG. It will start appearing in Volvo and FoE units first, but could/should make its way into the Mustang for the 201X generation.

 

The '86 GT engine had SEFI. The only difference between '86 and '87 were the heads. They put the truck heads on in '87 and it was good for an extra 25hp. The '85 had a 4 barrel Holley 600. There were some TBI injected cars, but most of the '86GTs had SEFI.

 

I dont know too much about supercharges or turbos......I'd prefer NA myself, but this is pretty impressive, stock motor and exhaust

http://www.procharger.com/2005_mustang_stock.shtml

just thought I'd share that, not that im denying the potential of turbo'd supras or the forged internals of the 04' cobra motors, but there is a lot that can be done with the stock s197 motor.