Installed MGW, extremely upset!
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MGW FTW! Looks big, I heard it adds more nvh, the stock shifter works for me? All things people say but If you don't have one or have driven a stang with one then how can you knock it? MGW is the best out there. Period.
I would say you are right to a degree. People don't change out the shifter just because of missed shifts. The MGW in particular gives a better shifting experience and makes driving more enjoyable.
Check out this thread:
https://themustangsource.com/f800/sr...talled-529532/
Before spending hundreds and hundreds on new shifters how many people have tried fixing the real problem that causes most of the missed shifts (the highly restrictive stock hydraulic clutch line)? Seriously - if you haven't tried it - it's one of the first changes you should make. Replacement shifters "feel" better during day to day driving, but when you're really banging through the gears in a hurry, you need to be sure the clutch is fully disengaged instantly before slamming the 1-2 or 2-3 shift. With the restrictive fittings on the stock clutch line, the fluid can't move fast enough and the clutch just doesn't fully disengage in time for you to pull through to the next gear. A new high volume clutch line is CHEAP (less than $100) and with it, I just don't miss a shift no matter how fast I slam through the gears. Don't get me wrong, when I put in a new shifter and bushing (Steeda), it felt 1000% better than stock, but it did NOT fix the 1-2 or 2-3 grind consistently. The only thing that fixed it once and for all was that simple hydraulic line.
https://themustangsource.com/f800/sr...talled-529532/
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The line is only $60 in the states directly from Hectic Parts:
http://www.hecticparts.com/products/...TTING-KIT.html
That photo doesn't show the fittings (but they are included).
If you want some more background on it, check out this video explaining the restrictions in the stock line:
No more grind, "nibble" or whatever people call it. If I'd have known, I would have changed this before anything else.
Don't get me wrong - replacement shifters offer a LOT more positive feel (sometimes to the point of being notchy), but if your clutch isn't getting disengaged fast enough, a shifter alone will never stop the grind on the quick shifts
Last edited by Black&Blue; May 21, 2014 at 08:57 PM.
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I got the Joe Heck Racing one at Steeda up here in Canada. Only $74.99 and it took about 10 minutes to change it.
The line is only $60 in the states directly from Hectic Parts:
http://www.hecticparts.com/products/...TTING-KIT.html
That photo doesn't show the fittings (but they are included).
If you want some more background on it, check out this video explaining the restrictions in the stock line:
JOE HECK RACING HIGH VOLUME CLUTCH LINE FOR 2011 2012 MUSTANG WITH GETRAG 6 SPEED MT-82 - YouTube
No more grind, "nibble" or whatever people call it. If I'd have known, I would have changed this before anything else.
Don't get me wrong - replacement shifters offer a LOT more positive feel (sometimes to the point of being notchy), but if your clutch isn't getting disengaged fast enough, a shifter alone will never stop the grind on the quick shifts
The line is only $60 in the states directly from Hectic Parts:
http://www.hecticparts.com/products/...TTING-KIT.html
That photo doesn't show the fittings (but they are included).
If you want some more background on it, check out this video explaining the restrictions in the stock line:
JOE HECK RACING HIGH VOLUME CLUTCH LINE FOR 2011 2012 MUSTANG WITH GETRAG 6 SPEED MT-82 - YouTube
No more grind, "nibble" or whatever people call it. If I'd have known, I would have changed this before anything else.
Don't get me wrong - replacement shifters offer a LOT more positive feel (sometimes to the point of being notchy), but if your clutch isn't getting disengaged fast enough, a shifter alone will never stop the grind on the quick shifts
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Before spending hundreds and hundreds on new shifters how many people have tried fixing the real problem that causes most of the missed shifts (the highly restrictive stock hydraulic clutch line)?
Seriously - if you haven't tried it - it's one of the first changes you should make. Replacement shifters "feel" better during day to day driving, but when you're really banging through the gears in a hurry, you need to be sure the clutch is fully disengaged instantly before slamming the 1-2 or 2-3 shift.
With the restrictive fittings on the stock clutch line, the fluid can't move fast enough and the clutch just doesn't fully disengage in time for you to pull through to the next gear.
A new high volume clutch line is CHEAP (less than $100) and with it, I just don't miss a shift no matter how fast I slam through the gears.
Don't get me wrong, when I put in a new shifter and bushing (Steeda), it felt 1000% better than stock, but it did NOT fix the 1-2 or 2-3 grind consistently. The only thing that fixed it once and for all was that simple hydraulic line.
Seriously - if you haven't tried it - it's one of the first changes you should make. Replacement shifters "feel" better during day to day driving, but when you're really banging through the gears in a hurry, you need to be sure the clutch is fully disengaged instantly before slamming the 1-2 or 2-3 shift.
With the restrictive fittings on the stock clutch line, the fluid can't move fast enough and the clutch just doesn't fully disengage in time for you to pull through to the next gear.
A new high volume clutch line is CHEAP (less than $100) and with it, I just don't miss a shift no matter how fast I slam through the gears.
Don't get me wrong, when I put in a new shifter and bushing (Steeda), it felt 1000% better than stock, but it did NOT fix the 1-2 or 2-3 grind consistently. The only thing that fixed it once and for all was that simple hydraulic line.
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That's what I originally thought too but the more I thought about it I wanted to try one out. Once I seen it installed on the car in person I was sold on the looks and love the size and appearance of the whole thing.
I don't believe anywhere in my previous posts that I stated I went with an MGW to fix the issues you mention. My car didn't have any shifting issues whatsoever I just wanted the improved tighter shifter feeling and slightly shorter throw along with the improved strength of a better built unit.
I don't believe anywhere in my previous posts that I stated I went with an MGW to fix the issues you mention. My car didn't have any shifting issues whatsoever I just wanted the improved tighter shifter feeling and slightly shorter throw along with the improved strength of a better built unit.
I keep trying to tell people this, and they don't understand.
THE STOCK SHIFTER WORKS.
THE MGW WORKS BETTER, FAR BETTER.
I'm not sure how much simpler we can explain this.
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Before spending hundreds and hundreds on new shifters how many people have tried fixing the real problem that causes most of the missed shifts (the highly restrictive stock hydraulic clutch line)?
Seriously - if you haven't tried it - it's one of the first changes you should make. Replacement shifters "feel" better during day to day driving, but when you're really banging through the gears in a hurry, you need to be sure the clutch is fully disengaged instantly before slamming the 1-2 or 2-3 shift.
With the restrictive fittings on the stock clutch line, the fluid can't move fast enough and the clutch just doesn't fully disengage in time for you to pull through to the next gear.
A new high volume clutch line is CHEAP (less than $100) and with it, I just don't miss a shift no matter how fast I slam through the gears.
Don't get me wrong, when I put in a new shifter and bushing (Steeda), it felt 1000% better than stock, but it did NOT fix the 1-2 or 2-3 grind consistently. The only thing that fixed it once and for all was that simple hydraulic line.
Seriously - if you haven't tried it - it's one of the first changes you should make. Replacement shifters "feel" better during day to day driving, but when you're really banging through the gears in a hurry, you need to be sure the clutch is fully disengaged instantly before slamming the 1-2 or 2-3 shift.
With the restrictive fittings on the stock clutch line, the fluid can't move fast enough and the clutch just doesn't fully disengage in time for you to pull through to the next gear.
A new high volume clutch line is CHEAP (less than $100) and with it, I just don't miss a shift no matter how fast I slam through the gears.
Don't get me wrong, when I put in a new shifter and bushing (Steeda), it felt 1000% better than stock, but it did NOT fix the 1-2 or 2-3 grind consistently. The only thing that fixed it once and for all was that simple hydraulic line.
All that being said, the MGW is an immaculate piece of machining IMO. I have had 0 issues with shifts since I put it in. If you're reading this and still on the fence, smack yourself and go order one. If you don't like the MGW ball and how low it sits, there are numerous other shiftknob options, I think I got my 5.0 ball from American Muscle, along with a spacer, so it sits roughly about stock height.
PS- MGW ships 2 bushings with the shifter, one for street, and one for track... don't be scared, take the red pill...
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I just purchased mine last night and am waiting for delivery. I watched the install video and it doesn't look too bad. Those of you that did it yourselves, did you run into any issues? Any tricks that would be good to know going into install? Seems pretty simple and straightforward.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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I just purchased mine last night and am waiting for delivery. I watched the install video and it doesn't look too bad. Those of you that did it yourselves, did you run into any issues? Any tricks that would be good to know going into install? Seems pretty simple and straightforward. Thanks.
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I just purchased mine last night and am waiting for delivery. I watched the install video and it doesn't look too bad. Those of you that did it yourselves, did you run into any issues? Any tricks that would be good to know going into install? Seems pretty simple and straightforward.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Very nice, i will upgrade the to this shifter soon. Everyone loves it. I must say though that many people complain of missing gears with the stock shifter. Personally i have not missed a shift into any gear since i bought it. I now have 10k miles and shifts great in stock form. Mine is a 14' GT, has the shifter been revised again for the '14s, anybody with a 14 miss gears?
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Very nice, i will upgrade the to this shifter soon. Everyone loves it. I must say though that many people complain of missing gears with the stock shifter. Personally i have not missed a shift into any gear since i bought it. I now have 10k miles and shifts great in stock form. Mine is a 14' GT, has the shifter been revised again for the '14s, anybody with a 14 miss gears?
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I got the Joe Heck Racing one at Steeda up here in Canada. Only $74.99 and it took about 10 minutes to change it.
The line is only $60 in the states directly from Hectic Parts:
http://www.hecticparts.com/products/...TTING-KIT.html
That photo doesn't show the fittings (but they are included).
If you want some more background on it, check out this video explaining the restrictions in the stock line:
JOE HECK RACING HIGH VOLUME CLUTCH LINE FOR 2011 2012 MUSTANG WITH GETRAG 6 SPEED MT-82 - YouTube
No more grind, "nibble" or whatever people call it. If I'd have known, I would have changed this before anything else.
Don't get me wrong - replacement shifters offer a LOT more positive feel (sometimes to the point of being notchy), but if your clutch isn't getting disengaged fast enough, a shifter alone will never stop the grind on the quick shifts
The line is only $60 in the states directly from Hectic Parts:
http://www.hecticparts.com/products/...TTING-KIT.html
That photo doesn't show the fittings (but they are included).
If you want some more background on it, check out this video explaining the restrictions in the stock line:
JOE HECK RACING HIGH VOLUME CLUTCH LINE FOR 2011 2012 MUSTANG WITH GETRAG 6 SPEED MT-82 - YouTube
No more grind, "nibble" or whatever people call it. If I'd have known, I would have changed this before anything else.
Don't get me wrong - replacement shifters offer a LOT more positive feel (sometimes to the point of being notchy), but if your clutch isn't getting disengaged fast enough, a shifter alone will never stop the grind on the quick shifts
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Very nice, i will upgrade the to this shifter soon. Everyone loves it. I must say though that many people complain of missing gears with the stock shifter. Personally i have not missed a shift into any gear since i bought it. I now have 10k miles and shifts great in stock form. Mine is a 14' GT, has the shifter been revised again for the '14s, anybody with a 14 miss gears?
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All that being said, the MGW is an immaculate piece of machining IMO. I have had 0 issues with shifts since I put it in. If you're reading this and still on the fence, smack yourself and go order one. If you don't like the MGW ball and how low it sits, there are numerous other shiftknob options, I think I got my 5.0 ball from American Muscle, along with a spacer, so it sits roughly about stock height.
PS- MGW ships 2 bushings with the shifter, one for street, and one for track... don't be scared, take the red pill...
PS- MGW ships 2 bushings with the shifter, one for street, and one for track... don't be scared, take the red pill...
So, I am very seriously looking at making the leap. Just curious, I have the 401A interior and really like my aluminum shifter ball. Will it fit on the MGW shifter? Can you use the stock boot?
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For the love of GOD pull the trigger, you'll wonder why you didn't do it sooner once you drive it. You reuse your stock boot and when you call and order just tell them you want to reuse your stock aluminum ball and they'll make sure you get the right stick. When I ordered mine they didn't even ask about threads but I had ordered their white ball.