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Old May 19, 2014 | 09:24 AM
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Installed MGW, extremely upset!

I just installed my MGW shifter on my 14 GT with 5,100 miles this weekend and I'm extremely upset that I didn't do it 5,000 miles ago. This shifter is by far the best out there and install was really pretty simple. Holy God the 2-3 upshift is like a little slice of heaven every time and I didn't notice any increase in N/V/H either. This is the absolute best mod I've ever done to a Mustang hands down and has made me fall in love with her all over again. Well worth every penny and thanks to all those on here that have posted about MGW that got me thinking about upgrading.
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Old May 19, 2014 | 09:35 AM
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why is the stock piece soooooooooooo bad. I mean really Ford
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Old May 19, 2014 | 10:36 AM
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why is the stock piece soooooooooooo bad. I mean really Ford
For the first 5,000 miles I didn't really have any issue with the stocker, I mean I knew it was cheap and all but it was tolerable and I knew the MGW would be better. After I took the stocker out I almost felt bad for how I treated it. If I would have known how freakin cheap it was I wouldn't have been near as hard on it as I was. Now I have no fear of breaking the shifter.
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Old May 19, 2014 | 12:15 PM
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LOL! My heart literally sank when I saw your thread title as I have an MGW shifter sitting in my living room, I just hadn't gotten the chance to install it yet.

I'm glad you've had a positive experience with yours. I'm hopnig mine will be the same also.
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Old May 19, 2014 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by McLovin
LOL! My heart literally sank when I saw your thread title as I have an MGW shifter sitting in my living room, I just hadn't gotten the chance to install it yet.

I'm glad you've had a positive experience with yours. I'm hopnig mine will be the same also.
I'm sure you will love it, the night and day difference is just amazing. People on here sing its praise for a reason.
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Old May 20, 2014 | 05:19 AM
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I knew what the punch line of this thread was going to be even before I clicked on it. I had my MGW waiting when I had ordered my Boss 2 years ago, can't imagine driving a Mustang without it.
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Old May 20, 2014 | 06:28 AM
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I need to get an MGW.
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Old May 20, 2014 | 09:31 AM
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Bill...

I hope I was one of the contributors to your assessment and ultimate decision to purchase an MGW. I too, was concerned about the thread title, and I thought, "wow, for the first time ever, in the history of MGW-kind, SOMEONE had something negative to say about the MGW as compared to the stocker." But no, you erased that fear with your first sentence.

I'm glad you are enjoying it. I absolutely love mine... I can't imagine enjoying my setup without it.

On another note, I have the same cue ball shifter, but noticed yours sits lower. Is that a different setup? Is it just the collar that's needed?
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Old May 20, 2014 | 09:46 AM
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I'm just weeks away from getting my car and I have to say I have HIGH hopes for this car. I'm expecting it to be everything and some!

I love the fact that this car is highly tweak-able and anything can be swapped out for better performing parts but, with that said, i'm really hoping that i'll love driving this car AS IS.

Does anyone know if the performance pack includes any changes in the shifting experience over the base or premium model? I don't think so based on not reading about it anywhere but.... who knows.
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Old May 20, 2014 | 09:49 AM
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^ nope. You'll still get the same sloppy, pos shifter everyone has on their stock cars. You'll "love" the car and the way it shifts "as is". As I stated before, the stock shifter FUNCTIONS and serves its purpose. It's not "broken" per se. The point with the MGW is that you will enjoy driving it MUCH MORE. It's like being satisfied with a regular sirloin steak, versus truly enjoying a filet mignon.
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Old May 20, 2014 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FromZto5
Bill...

I hope I was one of the contributors to your assessment and ultimate decision to purchase an MGW. I too, was concerned about the thread title, and I thought, "wow, for the first time ever, in the history of MGW-kind, SOMEONE had something negative to say about the MGW as compared to the stocker." But no, you erased that fear with your first sentence.

I'm glad you are enjoying it. I absolutely love mine... I can't imagine enjoying my setup without it.

On another note, I have the same cue ball shifter, but noticed yours sits lower. Is that a different setup? Is it just the collar that's needed?
You were the one that pushed me over the edge for sure. As for the height, that is just the deluxe jam nut that now comes included with the shifter. When I opened the box I was a little disappointed when I seen the shorter one compared to what you have but once I installed everything I kind of changed my mind and like it now.
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Old May 20, 2014 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by FromZto5
^ nope. You'll still get the same sloppy, pos shifter everyone has on their stock cars. You'll "love" the car and the way it shifts "as is". As I stated before, the stock shifter FUNCTIONS and serves its purpose. It's not "broken" per se. The point with the MGW is that you will enjoy driving it MUCH MORE. It's like being satisfied with a regular sirloin steak, versus truly enjoying a filet mignon.
my understanding is that the stock shifter is already a "short throw shifter" is the MGW unit even shorter?

I'm asking because I've always invested in better shifters at some point down the road and this is something i would seriously consider later on...
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Old May 20, 2014 | 12:16 PM
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my understanding is that the stock shifter is already a "short throw shifter" is the MGW unit even shorter?

I'm asking because I've always invested in better shifters at some point down the road and this is something i would seriously consider later on...
The MGW shifter has about a 30% shorter throw, which is just awesome, and the unit is built like a tank. It also includes the rear mount and bushing which is worlds apart from the one Ford used and it fixes a lot of the slop that people complain about. Once you take your stock shifter out your jaw will hit the floor when you see the difference between the two shifters with the lack of quality and amount of plastic used in the stocker. I also had no plans to get one because I felt the stock one was just fine but the more posts and videos I watched on here I thought it cant hurt to upgrade and I'm here to tell you I'm glad I did.
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Old May 20, 2014 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by pressman43
The MGW shifter has about a 30% shorter throw, which is just awesome, and the unit is built like a tank. It also includes the rear mount and bushing which is worlds apart from the one Ford used and it fixes a lot of the slop that people complain about. Once you take your stock shifter out your jaw will hit the floor when you see the difference between the two shifters with the lack of quality and amount of plastic used in the stocker. I also had no plans to get one because I felt the stock one was just fine but the more posts and videos I watched on here I thought it cant hurt to upgrade and I'm here to tell you I'm glad I did.

That's excellent. It's this sort of feedback from you all the really does make my life a lot easier, when the time comes...

making a list of things that I would do and taking down notes based on good reviews from real people (users) is far better than anything else that anyone can find online.
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Old May 20, 2014 | 04:17 PM
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I have yet to see an MGW in person but in pictures i have seen they always look really low and the ball looks too big.
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Old May 20, 2014 | 04:59 PM
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Agree...it doesn't look good...
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Old May 20, 2014 | 08:40 PM
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Before spending hundreds and hundreds on new shifters how many people have tried fixing the real problem that causes most of the missed shifts (the highly restrictive stock hydraulic clutch line)?

Seriously - if you haven't tried it - it's one of the first changes you should make. Replacement shifters "feel" better during day to day driving, but when you're really banging through the gears in a hurry, you need to be sure the clutch is fully disengaged instantly before slamming the 1-2 or 2-3 shift.

With the restrictive fittings on the stock clutch line, the fluid can't move fast enough and the clutch just doesn't fully disengage in time for you to pull through to the next gear.

A new high volume clutch line is CHEAP (less than $100) and with it, I just don't miss a shift no matter how fast I slam through the gears.

Don't get me wrong, when I put in a new shifter and bushing (Steeda), it felt 1000% better than stock, but it did NOT fix the 1-2 or 2-3 grind consistently. The only thing that fixed it once and for all was that simple hydraulic line.
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Old May 20, 2014 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Black&Blue
Before spending hundreds and hundreds on new shifters how many people have tried fixing the real problem that causes most of the missed shifts (the highly restrictive stock hydraulic clutch line)?

Seriously - if you haven't tried it - it's one of the first changes you should make. Replacement shifters "feel" better during day to day driving, but when you're really banging through the gears in a hurry, you need to be sure the clutch is fully disengaged instantly before slamming the 1-2 or 2-3 shift.

With the restrictive fittings on the stock clutch line, the fluid can't move fast enough and the clutch just doesn't fully disengage in time for you to pull through to the next gear.


A new high volume clutch line is CHEAP (less than $100) and with it, I just don't miss a shift no matter how fast I slam through the gears.

Don't get me wrong, when I put in a new shifter and bushing (Steeda), it felt 1000% better than stock, but it did NOT fix the 1-2 or 2-3 grind consistently. The only thing that fixed it once and for all was that simple hydraulic line.
Where did you get the new Line? Also can you post a picture of the line and fittings?
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Old May 21, 2014 | 03:42 AM
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Hmmmm.....what to do now? I'm seriously thinking of selling the Barton and putting that loot towards the MGW. I have been getting a 4-5 grind once in a while.
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Old May 21, 2014 | 03:58 AM
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Its been about 2 months since I got the MGW. I drive 60 miles a day in normal traffic, bumper to bumper traffic, and I sometines WOT on the highway on ramp merges. I have not missed a shift, or ground a gear since the MGW was installed. Not once. Still have the stock clutch line.
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