sounds cool, but i don't see it happening.

 

None of those are $30,000 cars. Heck you won't get much change from $60,000 on the Audi. Pricing isn't out on the BMW but I'm sure it's going to be over $60,000 and the Ferrari... well come on.

I don't think it's valid to compare these cars/motors to the Mustang. Clearly it's possible but is it possible to do it in a $30,000 car.

 

I agree. Highly doubful Ford will make that kind of jump so soon. Remember the new Bullitt was supposed to have a 400hp aluminum engine? Fell way short by production time. And how much power do we really need anyway? They already offer the GT500 with 500hp. Could be possible to see 400hp in an SE, but doubtful in a regular GT. I'll see it when it actually happens.

 

I hope the GT makes 400HP. I think it is possible and hopefully for the first time in a while Ford will make a more powerful base V8 to compete against the Camaro. The one big advantage for Chevy is that they have a boatload of awesome V8 motors already in production to choose from for the Camaro. Rumors are suggesting that it will have the G8's 365hp motor I personally think it will, like in the past have the old Vette motor making 400HP. I'm thinking Ford may be putting a base V8 at 400HP because that is what they forecast the Camaro is gonna have. With the Mustang expected to weigh in at 200-300lbs less than the Camaro perhaps the new Mustang will shoot down the Camaro at the beginning of its launch. Either way i'm gonna sit on the sidelines and see how these two cars play out for my next purchase.

 

I think the most hp you will see in a gt is 350 hp. Its just too much of a jump over the current. The base camaro v-8 will not get a 400 hp v-8. Thats what they will have the gt500 for.

Roger

 

Yeah, but thats why I mentioned them having 1 less liter....the ford has an extra liter to get 20 less hp than those too. You seem to also not understand that this is a live axle car with interior materials that are laughable compared to a BMW, Ferrari, or Audi...think outside the engine bay plz. He was comparing apples to oranges but you are comparing apples to an 8 course meal.

 

I thought the latest info from 4cam & Igor was now saying 2011 or 2012 for the 5.0, which sounds more believable.


Call me a pessimist too, but I still have a hard time believing a 400HP engine will make it's way into a volume Mustang model. Both CAFE and the new anti-HP campaign the IIHS is starting to wage will have negative impact on high HP cars.

 

So what your saying is, you think Ford is going to lay down and die instead of potentially putting the Camaro out of production permanently? Even if they took a hit on the cost of some vehicles....it would gurantee them the affordable pony car segment until the end of time unless japanese companies started joining the fight.

 

Believe it

If it gets better mileage than the current car even with the 400hp... it's doing its job.

 

Ford did put the Camaro out of production. And they're not laying down either. The Mustang is the most successful sports car of all time. Ford offers all kinds of Mustang models to contend with the Camaro and Challenger, not to mention the more powerful GT500 which has been out three years ahead of the Camaro. GM and Dodge are late to the table again. Don't worry. Ford has something in store..................

 

I also don't believe that GM is going to put a 400 HP LS-2 in their base V8 Camaro anyhow. But more than likely in their SS version, providing that it's offered as an option.

As the base Z-28, will get the 365 HP G8 instead.

 

i hope ford isnt dumb enough to put the bullitt motor in the '10 GT ..i dont think ANYONe that likes mustangs would be happy. there would randomly be a rise in the numer of gothic/emo people...and i'll know whY!!!

 

Is that an inside joke because I really don't get it...

 

+2. While I don't doubt Ford will release a 400 hp 5.0L engine, I don't see it being available in the mass produced GT but in a limited edition SE model like the Boss or Mach I

 

In today's auto market 300HP just isn't the big deal it once was. Many imports sport V6s in the same power range as the current 4.6 GT. To really stand out Ford needs at least 350HP and also try to shed some weight. I don't mean to bash on the newer heavier Mustangs but they don't seem as fast as they should be (including the GT500). Hopefully Ford can continue producing GTs that run on regular 87 octane fuel, which I must admit the current 4.6 in the GT is the most powerful car out there that runs on 87.

 

Y'know the Mustang is the lightweight on the block, neither GM nor DC can touch it in terms of weight. The Challenger is heavier than the GT500 and the F5 will be lucky if it comes in under 3700 pounds. While the GT can be easily had in sub 3600-3500 pound weights. The trick will be if they add things like and M6 and IRS to keep the weight down along with a reasonable price, with inflation and regulatory concerns (which could be compounded by the upcoming election and who takes office) It may well prove impossible to keep the Mustang positioned where it is and instead move it upscale where it would be more profitable to to sell a base Mustang in the 40k plus range.

 

The Mustang is not the most successful sports car... that distinction is clearly that of the 911. Essentially the same car for going on 50 years? I think that's the definition of success.

Anyways, to get back on topic here, I agree the Z28 Slomaro will most likely have the same V8 as the G8. 365 hp is more than adequate and then the SS will more than likely be the 6.2 currently found in the base Vettes. I'm sure Chevy will also try to cash in on SE models with maybe a Yenko or ZL-1 in which case the S/C 6.2 or the 7.0 could turn up in the Maro.

The Challenger has it's engines already laid out for it. We know it's getting a 3.5 V6, 5.7 V8, and the 6.1 V8 which is rumored to be expanding to 6.4 liters. Also you have to watch out for Hennessy and his hijinks as I'm sure he's already trying to shove the V10 from the Viper in the car.

Based on the 5.7 going in the 2009 Rams with 380 hp / 404 lb-ft, if Ford doesn't put at least 350 in the GT, they will be last on the street again. They can get away with less power because they have less weight but it has to stay close... giving up more than 30 hp and who knows how much torque to the Challenger won't do it any favors.

 

Couldn't that plug have gone unsaid without losing any meaning? This is the ignorant comment of the week if there ever was one considering the tone and bias it contains. Lets keep this about the car and no...a 40k base Mustang is ridiculous, it would be the death of the Mustang and Ford... That comment along with the highlighted one really shows your lack of judgement.

 

I understand that the Ford may be lighter than the Challenger (basically a re-bodied Charger) but I have not heard anything about the Camaro as far as specific weight. Even if it's the lightest I still feel the current car is too heavy. I remember when the 94' cars came out and thought that they should not make the car any bigger than that and now the current gen is bigger than the fourth gen cars in every way. I hope that the Mustang doesn't move upscale. If it does sales will be reduced and I personally would rather buy a Corvette over a Mustang if it came to that price range.... not trying to pick a fight but those are just my .02

 

Based upon what we know thus far, the current GT is quite capable of running with the Challenger SRT-8. So the future Mustang GT doesn't necessarily have to be within 30 HP of the Challenger to match or beat it, not if the 2010 Stang keeps the weight down.

I see no chance of a 400HP GT for 2010.

However it all shakes out, the muscle car war, as we have known it, will be over soon.