2010-2014 Mustang Information on The S197 {GenII}

Has anybody else considered cancelling their order, and buying a dealer car?

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Old 6/11/10 | 05:59 AM
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Thisis my secod post do y guys sleep? I ordered 2/9 and my car is still on 51. First car ever ordered probaly will never do that again. A roush came off the truck tues and the rest is history. you guys wont be mad when you get your car because the car is awsome.
Old 6/11/10 | 06:36 AM
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I probably shouldn't say anything, but I will anyway, just for my .02 worth.....

Yes, I do have my car. Yes I was frustrated with the waiting, and not knowing
why it was built 4/8 and then sitting at Area 51 for weeks on end after being built.
I was frustrated with the lack of updates...telling me the ETA was 4/26 when the date
already was 5/8...............

But at least this time I knew WHERE IT WAS ! In 05 my car was lost for NINE WEEKS ! !

When I ordered the 05, it was built on 5/26/05, and then disappeared. No one was able
to locate it ! By chance I stumbled across someone who actually worked at the plant and
he was able to tell me it had been sent offsite to another facility- they were having issues
with some of the rearends at that time, and that it had a "ding" in the roof. But that was
all he could find out as of 7/31/05. Two days later he emailed the name/email address of
a QC person at the plant. One day later I had a response, the car was located and would
undergo a complete QC check and shipped within 3 days. Apparently the car was "fixed" but the paperwork got "misplaced". And the car was delivered on 8/9/05, and lived happily ever after ! !

So the wait this time was not as stressful, and believe me, definitely worth it. I liked the 05
but I love the 11.
Do what you feel is best for you, but the 11 is really a whole new car............

sorry for the long post, but just my personal experience...
Old 6/11/10 | 07:31 AM
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Hi guys, I'm playing the waiting game too. Car built April 21, still not began it's journey to the dealer. I also have vacation plans of myself and family dependant on this car's delivery. It's not the perfect situation...

But, come on. We all should have know what we were in for when we ordered. The three dealers I negotiated with back in February all told me to expect a long delivery time, from "8-12 weeks", to "sometime in August" if I was to order by the start of production. I would have waited, but wanted the car to arrive sometime this summer, so I placed the order and got in line. Sure there are cars now getting ordered later and arriving earlier, but that's a gamble. I felt the "slow and steady" approach would be the most likely to succeed. While I'd like my car right now, I'm pretty sure it will come before August, which is all I should be expecting. I was nervous until I got a VIN and a production date.

If you were reading the posts by those in the know around here from Feb./Mar., you would have been warned to expect just what we are seeing now: quality holds and shipping backlogs. Remember the "by the fence", "first out/ last shipped" and "retail verification vs. stock order" theories? There's nothing going on now that we didn't accept the risks for by ordering early. Just sucks that it turned out that way for most of us, rather than getting lucky and being one of the exceptions.

Hang in there if you can. If you ordered the car based on having to have it by a certain date, you may have been missguided by your dealer or foolish. These are ETA's people. My dealer doesn't think anything of the delays, says it's always like this with major model changes. The cars will come.

After that rant... if you can find just what you want on a lot, yeah, go for it. I special ordered a car the way I wanted it, which will be relatively unique, and will always be the car that I was responsible for creating!

Muhahahaaa...
Old 6/11/10 | 07:37 AM
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My dealer ordered my retail order and one for dealer stock. The dealer stock arrived well before mine was even scheduled to be built. Same color but stripe delete and has the SVT package and car cover. Took it for a test drive and loved it. A couple of weeks went by and now it's in my garage.
Old 6/11/10 | 07:43 AM
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Guys this is what gets me with a bunch of you'lls responses. I have to agree with Stinger on this one to a point. You've waited (like myself) for years and years for this car yet you can't wait that little bit longer be it a couple of weeks or a few months? After waiting for "YEARS"!?!?! Mine is in order to and though I haven't been waiting as long as some of you(for my order), I can't help to think how worth it it's going to be. I haven't bought a Mustang since the 96 Cobras came out just because I have never really been that impressed with the 4.6L (bought it, had it for a while, then sold it a couple of years later) . Had an 86 GT for as long as I can remember(loved every minute of owning it) and waited and waited for it's return(5.0) so I could buy a new one again. Now it's here and I'll happily get in line. Just read up on posts put up by guys who've already received theirs and dwell on that for a while. I too made sacrifices to be able to put my name down for one. Sold my 08 Tundra with 16K miles on it and my 86 but that is just life. IMHO if you want it bad enough I think the waiting game is manageable but a bunch of you guys sound like you've made an impulse decision and are now griping about something that is completely out of our hands. No promises were made to anyone on a specific delivery date (that I know of) so why would our orders be any different. Not trying to come across like an a$$ cause I really do know how a bunch of you feel but geez!! And for those thinking of buying of the lot I say go for it. If it's gonna be good enough for you then have at it. I probably would to. Cheers.
Old 6/11/10 | 07:52 AM
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It sure is hard to understand why some of us have received ours and others haven't. Was mine delivered without being fixed? Was I just lucky? Is there anything really wrong? Way to many questions? For those of you waiting I know the pain, wish I could help. Try to hang in there. I know others have said it is worth the wait and it really is! My dealer has only received 2, mine and his brothers shelby.
Ordered 3/1
Built 4/21
Delivered 5/28
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Old 6/11/10 | 08:00 AM
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Heck even waiting might not get you the right car ... joking aside.

I know everyone is high strung in waiting, and believe me... Ford would RATHER you have the car than not...
BUT

They also want you to have the car ... as problem free as they can.

There ARE a couple of hiccups, and that happens with every car.
The difference here, is Ford has chosen to fix these issues (regardless of what they are),
rather than push the car out and have you deal with them at a dealer and have egg on their faces.

So here are the options with any given problem.

1-- fix the issue before you get it (resulting in a bit of a delay... people are angry)
2-- knowingly send the cars out. (resulting in you having to get your car, be happy cause its on time, and then get utterly PISSED cause you had to bring it into the shop for an undetermined ammount of time)
According to a lot of people here: Damned if you do, Damned if you don't.


What the issues are...irrelevant.
If you have your car, it's because it didn't have any of these hiccups.

The issues must be sporadic, as cars are still coming out from orders/retail, and cars are being tested.
The problem is the wait time on parts/testing/implimentation.

So while it DOES suck waiting...no one is disputing that...
Ford will deliver the goods when they are ready. This is NO different than ANY other manufacturing sector.

If you're going to buy one off the lot, so be it. Just be happy with what you purchase.

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Old 6/11/10 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Heck even waiting might not get you the right car ... joking aside.

I know everyone is high strung in waiting, and believe me... Ford would RATHER you have the car than not...
BUT

They also want you to have the car ... as problem free as they can.

There ARE a couple of hiccups, and that happens with every car.
The difference here, is Ford has chosen to fix these issues (regardless of what they are),
rather than push the car out and have you deal with them at a dealer and have egg on their faces.

So here are the options with any given problem.

1-- fix the issue before you get it (resulting in a bit of a delay... people are angry)
2-- knowingly send the cars out. (resulting in you having to get your car, be happy cause its on time, and then get utterly PISSED cause you had to bring it into the shop for an undetermined ammount of time)
According to a lot of people here: Damned if you do, Damned if you don't.


What the issues are...irrelevant.
If you have your car, it's because it didn't have any of these hiccups.

The issues must be sporadic, as cars are still coming out from orders/retail, and cars are being tested.
The problem is the wait time on parts/testing/implimentation.

So while it DOES suck waiting...no one is disputing that...
Ford will deliver the goods when they are ready. This is NO different than ANY other manufacturing sector.

If you're going to buy one off the lot, so be it. Just be happy with what you purchase.



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Old 6/11/10 | 08:18 AM
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MO on the subject as i have a car ordered, built and not yet delivered

i don't consider this car the Holy Grail
i haven't waited Years for this car
if they had soldiered on with the 4.6 i would have bought one of those
i pulled the trigger and ordered partly because of the motor and new trans and partly because i let my daughter drive my 03 to college and it was time for a new one, THAT'S IT.


i'll give my honest opinion on my possible cancelling and re-ordering or waiting for another time altogether, and i feel that others probably feel the way i do but have not posted the truth on this forum

at this point i feel as though the car i get is tainted, scarred, a rigged to work mishmash of parts

since i don't know what or why, only that it's been over a month that it's been built how can i be confident in the final product, especially a high tech, high performance machine that it is
i mean it's not some econobox

so i would have liked that once the car was built, it would be shipped and delivered in a timely manner
it really erodes confidence in the product when it's not fresh off the line and it's been sitting somewhere all this time for who knows what

i am Ford loyal, have bought 6 Fords and only 1 non-Ford over the last 22 years and this would be my 3rd Mustang so i have lived with the compromises these cars come with already and am willing to live with any this 2011 has, but it is very worrisome the way everything has transpired


my .02
Old 6/11/10 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by m4reapr

since i don't know what or why, only that it's been over a month that it's been built how can i be confident in the final product, especially a high tech, high performance machine that it is
i mean it's not some econobox

so i would have liked that once the car was built, it would be shipped and delivered in a timely manner
it really erodes confidence in the product when it's not fresh off the line and it's been sitting somewhere all this time for who knows what
It'll be better than it was fresh off the line with a problem.

Don't worry yourself about the 'what is it' or 'what could it be'
Just know that by the time you get it, it'll be the same part installed on the line.
(Part without issue or new part #)

That's what the QC is about.

People being on the internet and knowing now more is probably putting more fear in your head.
If you were joe blow without a forum to rear, all you'd probably hear is "Your car is on hold, due to parts" could be anything and you go on your merry way.

Sometimes knowing too much is a bad thing. Mind starts to wander.
Old 6/11/10 | 09:05 AM
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From what I've been able to glean from my hundreds of man hours spent researching and calling around it seems like there is one date that is set in stone. June 20th is, according to many sources, the date that the early built cars that went into QC holding will be finished and shipped at the latest. The thing that had brought me so close to buying dealer stock order in Florida that I found which had the exact options I ordered (but was Candy Red instead of Race Red) was the lack of any ETA.

It seemed like there was no predictable end to the hold, the cars were on the lot for almost two months what would stop them from being there another 3 months. I think that's the sentiment of most people here. We just want to be sure we get this car within reason, and some people feel like the reasonable wait time has passed. Making the decision to cancel out on the order and buy dealer stock isn't saying "screw you Ford", you're still buying a FORD MUSTANG. Most people get what they really wanted in the first place, a brand new 5.0h. (or 3.7 CD )

I'm not going to cancel because now I am fairly confident that my car will be shipped by the 20th and here by the first week of July at the very latest. I can't bring myself to get stock because I love every single option I put in my order and I can't afford to have extra's that I don't want. I even love the color so much I was hesitating getting the Candy Red GT/CS spec'd exactly the same (nothing against it, just not what I wanted). Now that I have an idea when the latest possible date is the wait will not feel so **** endless and I can be excited to get my car again.

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Old 6/11/10 | 09:11 AM
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I have a car ordered that is scheduled to be built today So I am not really in the same boat as you guys.


But my theory on this is. If you were buying a used car. You would want to get a carfax report to get a full history on the car. So you could make a informed decision before buying that particular car. Now if there is not a good carfax on the car you are looking at. You probably wont buy it but that doesnt mean you wont buy the same model. Just not the particular car.

The same should apply to new cars as well. As a paying customer I should have the right to know anything that has been done or changed after my car is built. So I as the customer can make a informed decision on whether or not to buy that particular vehicle.

Some things wouldnt matter and some things would. But it should be the customers choice.

If it was my car that got held on QC and no infromation was given to me as to why. I would probably cancel that order and order another car that is exactly same. Even if it meant I would have to wait a little longer. But that is just me.

Just my .02 cents probably not even worth that.

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Old 6/11/10 | 09:15 AM
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I ordered our very 1st '11 GT in January for a personal friend. That car was built 5 weeks ago and its ETA is still showing as 5/22 (2 weeks ago). Frustrated, I ordered a duplicate second car for my friend last week and it is scheduled to be built soon. It'll be interesting to see which car arrives first. I'm tempted to re-order duplicates for all of our early '11 GT's that are held up. Our V6's and GT500's are coming on schedule, so it's definitely just a GT thing.
Old 6/11/10 | 09:36 AM
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That's what I was thinking. Fricken ordering another duplicate car now, may even come sooner than your first order. And you'll know it was 'built right' the first time, not sitting in a lot for months getting trashed by the weather (if you were planning on garaging your car like I would be) or the tires being flatspotted from sitting for so long, etc etc.

Ugh. I wish I had bought that 2010. And before you jump all over me saying the 2011 Coyote is GOD, I would have been perfectly content and satisfied with the 2010.

Good luck guys...I'm going to try and refrain from posting in these kinds of threads, as they don't pertain to me. I wish you guys well and hope your cars come soon!
Old 6/11/10 | 09:36 AM
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From produced/built to delivered, how long of a wait is unreasonably excessive?

Latest reason for the hold on GT's/Rumours on the Holds/Update on the Holds/Holds

Has anybody else considered cancelling their order, and buying a dealer car?

Ya think we might be " BEATING A DEAD DOG " ???
Old 6/11/10 | 09:42 AM
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You ever watch the news? They never have just one piece on a major news story. They hit it from many angles because it's what everyone wants to know. The headline this month is "Where is my **** car and why!"
Old 6/11/10 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by HokieCodeMonkey
You ever watch the news? They never have just one piece on a major news story. They hit it from many angles because it's what everyone wants to know. The headline this month is "Where is my **** car and why!"
(Most) news is like The Jerry Springer Show
Old 6/11/10 | 10:04 AM
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But do we know for sure the new cars being built are having it "done right"? My car started being built on the 3rd and I have no idea if it's affected by QC stuff.
Old 6/11/10 | 10:12 AM
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But do we know for sure the new cars being built are having it "done right"? My car started being built on the 3rd and I have no idea if it's affected by QC stuff.
you'll know when you're crawling in rushour DC beltway traffic in your new 5.0 and
Old 6/11/10 | 10:16 AM
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I don't see much of the dead horse left after all the beating on here that's taken place. Shaun and Boomer have it right. I think a lot of these claims are made without knowing/understanding the complexities of a manufacturing operation. You have every right to be upset, but as I've said in these threads before, would you rather wait now and NOT be making payments for a car in a shop, or get an inferior product and have it sit somewhere waiting for parts while you're paying for it to sit there? Getting something just to have it seems ignorant and ill-advised.

Sometimes too much knowledge is a bad thing. This is a prime example. If the finer details were laid out for all too see, all the auto news blogs/sites would have a field day with it and bash the living hell out of Ford for it. Keeping it internal and working to rectify the situation is their "best-case" solution. I've been privy to some of the issues, but, quite frankly, they don't bother me. It's not a big deal, even if your car is sitting in a lot somewhere. You might be mad, but you'll realize once you have it for a few months that the wait was worth it.

I can't wait to look back at these threads in 3-4 months and lauqh once most of you get your cars and are going on and on about "this thing is so awesome!" It's threads like these that make me glad to have waited to order.



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