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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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That being said, you'll be lucky to find a base SS for 35-37k MSRP. And that's providing there isn't any ADM markups, otherwise expect another 5-10k on top of that.

By the time it's all said and done, a fully loaded SS will more than likely cost you between 42-48k !
I don't think the MSRP will be that high. That's approaching C6 territory.
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by max2000jp
I don't think the MSRP will be that high. That's approaching C6 territory.
You're right Jason, that is approaching C6 territory. Guess I got just a bit carried away, but I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised, if Chevy marks up the 2010 SS close to 38k for a fully loaded coupe.
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 97GT03SVT
Prices of the Mustang have increased every year since 05'. I was at a dealership this past Friday and I didn't see a single GT for under $30,000. I'm talking cars with leather, IUP and some with 18's..no navigation or mach 1000. I assume a stripped GT may tuck in just under that, but for most people who buy well optioned GTs should expect to pay about 30k, heck a loaded GT drop top is in at $40,000! I do agree that the Camaro will be priced higher, but pricing a GT at under $30,000 isn't true in most cases.

My main argument is that there is no way the SS will come in under $30,000 at MSRP. From what I understand the Chevy was the priciest platform to develop and even the R/T Challenger bases at $30,000. My guess is that a stripped SS will come in at $33,000 the R/T at $30,000 and the new Mustang base GT will slot in at $28,000..........of course options could add several thousand to any of these rides......... I bet the real bargain in the spring of 10' will be picking up a low mile 07-09 GT500! Thats what i'm planning on!
I really do hope you're able to pick up up a low mile 07-09 GT500, as we all would like nothing more than to welcome you to the S-197 family.
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by max2000jp
I don't think the MSRP will be that high. That's approaching C6 territory.
Begs the question: where are they going to shoe-horn the Z28 ? Think they'll live with the overlap, or might the 'Vette climb up the ladder a couple K?
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 11:25 PM
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According to GM, other than the V-6 LT and LS models along with the SS. There isn't going to be a Z-28 available. However if the SS begins in the mid 30k range MSRP. I would then assume the Vette would definitely climb the latter by a couple of K, as a direct result.

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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
You're right Jason, that is approaching C6 territory. Guess I got just a bit carried away, but I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised, if Chevy marks up the 2010 SS close to 38k for a fully loaded coupe.
Personally, I'd chose the Vette. I don't ever use the rear seats on my Mustang and as long as the trunk holds a set of golf clubs, I am happy.

38K for a Camaro is a bit steep IMO. Hopefully, GM learned their mistakes with the GTO and will price it fairly competitive to the Mustang.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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The only thing I disagree with is the Camaro being a higher content car than the mustang. The current mustang already has tons of options. And the 2010 will have SYNC, rear view camera, ambient lighting, etc. The Camaro won't even have sat NAV.

I'm sorry I should have been more clear. I mean in terms of performance. The base V8 cars are slotted to have cylinder shutoff, 14' brembos, standard 18' wheels (optional 19') the obviously talked about IRS...... I am surprised that the Camaro won't offer a navigation system.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
I really do hope you're able to pick up up a low mile 07-09 GT500, as we all would like nothing more than to welcome you to the S-197 family.
Trust me i'll be happy when that day comes, I want an alloy one with silver stripes!

As far as the Z28 goes from what I have heard from both the internet and GM friends is that it has been postponed and not canceled. I'm guessing Chevy will have either a supercharged 6.2 or even the current Z06's 7.0. Either way GM's top Camaro will eventually should have anywhere between 500-600HP....just my .02
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 02:04 PM
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Mustang GT500 > Camaro SS > Challenger SRT8 > Mustang GT > Challenger R/T > Camaro V6 > Mustang V6 > Challenger V6

...That's my take...
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by LEO_06GT
where'd that pic come from. I had never realized how big the new camaro was, it looks a lot smaller by itself I'm glad to see the mustang looks the fittest of the 3!
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Knight
where'd that pic come from. I had never realized how big the new camaro was, it looks a lot smaller by itself I'm glad to see the mustang looks the fittest of the 3!
Yeah, the Camaro looks as big as the Challenger. Geeze, they should have just named it Chevelle!
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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It being up close may make it look larger. Would be better if they were all lined up next to each other.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Knight
where'd that pic come from. I had never realized how big the new camaro was, it looks a lot smaller by itself I'm glad to see the mustang looks the fittest of the 3!
Jalopnik.com

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http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/MuscleCarWarSanDiego2/

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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 97GT03SVT
I'm sorry I should have been more clear. I mean in terms of performance. The base V8 cars are slotted to have cylinder shutoff, 14' brembos, standard 18' wheels (optional 19') the obviously talked about IRS...... I am surprised that the Camaro won't offer a navigation system.
Oh ok, now I see what you're saying. I think the auto has launch control too, you're right about that.

As for that pic of the 3 modern muscle cars, it looks cool, but I won't be satisfied until the 2010 is there.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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I'm positive that the Mustang shown in the photo with the Challenger and Camaro is not a GT500KR but a regular Mustang GT in California Special trim.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 01:43 PM
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I'm positive that the Mustang shown in the photo with the Challenger and Camaro is not a GT500KR but a regular Mustang GT in California Special trim.
It is a Black GT/CS with the white stripe treatment...
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by acascianelli
Mustang GT500 > Camaro SS > Challenger SRT8 > Mustang GT > Challenger R/T > Camaro V6 > Mustang V6 > Challenger V6

...That's my take...
Thats how I would rank them too!
1.) GT500
2.) Camaro SS
3.) Challenger SRT
4.) Mustang GT
5.) Challenger RT
6.) Camaro V6
7.) Mustang V6
8.) Challenger V6

Who would even want a Challenger without a Hemi?

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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LEO_06GT

Great picture... all three look really nice. Especially together.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by max2000jp
Personally, I'd chose the Vette. I don't ever use the rear seats on my Mustang and as long as the trunk holds a set of golf clubs, I am happy.

38K for a Camaro is a bit steep IMO. Hopefully, GM learned their mistakes with the GTO and will price it fairly competitive to the Mustang.
Being as Bob Lutz has already confirmed, the Camaro SS will not be priced competitively with the 2010 Mustang. But instead will be marketed as premium coupe.

This leads me to believe, the Camaro SS will have an MSRP somewhere in the mid 30k range. However if GM decides to become greedy, and add ADM markups. I'd wouldn't be in the least bit surprised to expect close to 38k, for a fully loaded model.
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