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Old 5/20/12 | 04:56 PM
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Getting ready to take her to the track, have couple concerns ...

my car is about to hit 2,000 miles and ill feel safe taking it to the 1/4 track to see how it does, or how i do with it.

i have tracked a few cars in the past, so first thing to do was to take it to some warehouse streets and test the couple gears and try launching it with traction completely off.

one thing i noticed is when you hit redline it doesn't continue revving the engine and hitting redline (the rev rev rev rev rev sound) it just simply cuts the engine ? is that something new from ford? i know usually it would just keep revving and cutting off fuel at redline

second thing i noticed, when throwing it into 2nd gear it grinds it a little, well enough to not sound good.

third thing i noticed, when i put a load on the engine, redlining 1st and putting into second, i notice that the clutch engagement actually moves lower on the pedal, like closer to the floor and it feels like the actual clutch pedal does not go up all the way as compared to when driving during normal loads. Im wondering if the car is so advanced that it actually lowers the pedal a little lower so during racing you don't have to press so far down??? or there might be a vacuum leak or something else? but then maybe is why it grinds a little going into 2nd because during load the pedal doesn't allow full disengagement?



any of you guys experienced these above?
Old 5/20/12 | 07:56 PM
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The rev limiter cuts it off abruptly, just the way they are.

A number of people have described the clutch engagement just as you have. It isn't some advanced clutch situation, just a peculiarity that some experience.

It's funny, of the three V6 cars I have had experience with, including my current car, I have never experienced this occurrence. The clutch pedal and M/C are identical to the GT but it has never happened on any of those that I have driven.
Old 5/20/12 | 09:56 PM
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I'm just wondering if its something i should start worrying about... plus how do ask my dealer about it, do i take him for a ride or do i let the dealer drive and redline it and try to shift and see that the pedal angles much lower and grinds going into gear due to that?

a couple of times during a load from 1st trying to shift into 2nd, it didn't go in at all, with the clutch all the way pressed. after trying it again i had to actually power it into 2nd.

its not like any other transmission i ever had. Is the MT82 really that sissy that it can only shift perfectly under normal conditions ?
Old 5/20/12 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BOSS302R
I'm just wondering if its something i should start worrying about... plus how do ask my dealer about it, do i take him for a ride or do i let the dealer drive and redline it and try to shift and see that the pedal angles much lower and grinds going into gear due to that?

a couple of times during a load from 1st trying to shift into 2nd, it didn't go in at all, with the clutch all the way pressed. after trying it again i had to actually power it into 2nd.

its not like any other transmission i ever had. Is the MT82 really that sissy that it can only shift perfectly under normal conditions ?
Attack of Skipshift perhaps?
Old 5/20/12 | 10:53 PM
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A ton of 11-12 owners have experienced the clutch pedal sticking in high RPM's and grinding gears with the current mustang clutch/trans setup. I drove my boss hard for the first time today and it kinda did it. It is super frustrating, I stayed away from LS1 fbodys and vettes for the longest due to there clutch pedal sticking issues. The few I drove pedals stuck. Some have fixed this issue with the upgraded clutch line and new fluid.

Few threads with same type issues

https://themustangsource.com/f813/clutch-floor-507967/

https://themustangsource.com/f804/re...oughts-500628/

https://themustangsource.com/f726/cl...-floor-497983/

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Old 5/21/12 | 02:16 AM
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Thanks for the links,

I figured I'll start a thread focused directly on the grind issue.

https://themustangsource.com/f726/gr...1/#post6353341
Old 5/23/12 | 11:47 AM
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this is why i purchased my auto, all i do is floor it and it shifts every single time at the same rpm at the drag strip
Old 5/23/12 | 11:51 AM
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this is why i purchased my auto, all i do is floor it and it shifts every single time at the same rpm at the drag strip
How's that recall goin' for ya
Old 5/23/12 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by nordy racer
this is why i purchased my auto, all i do is floor it and it shifts every single time at the same rpm at the drag strip
Originally Posted by ShadowFox
How's that recall goin' for ya
and how are you enjoying burn-outs?
Old 5/23/12 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nordy racer
this is why i purchased my auto, all i do is floor it and it shifts every single time at the same rpm at the drag strip
might as well let someone else drive your car at the strip, since you kinda don't have to do anything or put any skill into it hehe
Old 5/23/12 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ShadowFox
How's that recall goin' for ya
15000 miles on my car, and i have had a tune (shifting hard too) on it since 500 miles.. NO recalls for me..car is running great.
Old 5/23/12 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BOSS302R
might as well let someone else drive your car at the strip, since you kinda don't have to do anything or put any skill into it hehe
lol.. it takes the same launching skills for a auto vs stick. its just that i dont have to worry missing shifts, over reving, back clutchs once im going down the track.
take a look at all the fastest 1/4 cars and you will see that they are autos
Old 5/23/12 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by nordy racer
lol.. it takes the same launching skills for a auto vs stick. its just that i dont have to worry missing shifts, over reving, back clutchs once im going down the track.
take a look at all the fastest 1/4 cars and you will see that they are autos
nope not same skills at all
Old 5/23/12 | 11:39 PM
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It might not be same skills, but running a auto is the smartest and best way to run your car down the track. I've had a automatic Mach1 with a converter it took some techniques. To get launch correct and consistent.
Old 5/24/12 | 05:30 AM
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Autos rule in the quarter no argument . I'd race my stock auto 12' vs ANY stock manual GT 11-13' in a best out of 5 or best of 10. Any amount of $$. The auto wins by landslide. Everyone knows it and no stock manual would take that bet.

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Old 5/24/12 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Mustang Mafia
Autos rule in the quarter no argument . I'd race my stock auto 12' vs ANY stock manual GT 11-13' in a best out of 5 or best of 10. Any amount of $$. The auto wins by landslide. Everyone knows it and no stock manual would take that bet.
What does your car run in the 1/4?

What mods you have?
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Old 5/24/12 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BOSS302R
nope not same skills at all
here's my old auto car, it took skills to drive it at 35 pounds of boost on the turbo
first video below
http://good-times.webshots.com/video...ost=good-times

got kicked out of Fontana after this run becuse i didnt have a full cage and it was a event for 10 sec and slow cars (went 9.50's at 140mph in the heat 98*)

heres the second run out (in car) to the 1000ft mark and slamming the brakes to slow down to 10's .. didnt make it ..

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Old 5/24/12 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by UnrealFord

What does your car run in the 1/4?

What mods you have?
The car is stock and runs 12.80s all day every day 10/10. I'll put that against any manual. No manual can remotely do that regardless of driver. So what if a manual gets a perfect run in one race against me and runs 12.75; the next run will be a 13.30 or worse . The fact is a manual mt82 can not run consistent to beat 6r80 auto GT's and I'm willing to back it up. The MT82 is a rag, everyone knows this. No matter how many TSB's or duct tape jobs Ford attempts on the MT82 , it is an inconsistent, weak, dog transmission.
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Originally Posted by Mustang Mafia

The car is stock and runs 12.80s all day every day 10/10. I'll put that against any manual. No manual can remotely do that regardless of driver. So what if a manual gets a perfect run in one race against me and runs 12.75; the next run will be a 13.30 or worse . The fact is a manual mt82 can not run consistent to beat 6r80 auto GT's and I'm willing to back it up. The MT82 is a rag, everyone knows this. No matter how many TSB's or duct tape jobs Ford attempts on the MT82 , it is an inconsistent, weak, dog transmission.
Well the automatic is great, as I stated, but IMO the. MT82, isnt as bad as you describe,
I went to the track last weekend and my buddy with his Boss 302 and factory tires ran pretty consistent,
12. 66
12. 66
12. 67
12. 82
Etc etc.. Thats pretty good in my book


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