You're right about Ford not giving up any info on the skip shift thing, but they'll crack it up soon. Just a matter of weeks from a good source. I'd be real surpised if FoMoCo were to remove one of their own CAFE feature.

 

Would it affect the CAFE requirements? Since it would be an aftermarket item I would think it wouldn't?

But that is what I am worried about as well. And I am sure all the other players will figure it out sooner or later.

 

I am curious about the skip shift thing as well. I am not a big fan of it. If i want to go from 1st to 4th for fuel economy i will. I don't need my car to make me do it.

Just a quick question. whais this CAFE i keep hearing about. I am horrible when it comes to terminology and acronyms.

 

Corporate Average Fuel Economy.

From Wiki:

The Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) are regulations in the United States, first enacted by US Congress in 1975,[1] and intended to improve the average fuel economy of cars and light trucks (trucks, vans and sport utility vehicles) sold in the US in the wake of the 1973 Arab Oil Embargo. Historically, it is the sales-weighted harmonic mean fuel economy, expressed in miles per gallon (mpg), of a manufacturer's fleet of current model year passenger cars or light trucks with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 8,500 pounds (3,856 kg) or less, manufactured for sale in the US.
This system would have changed with the introduction of "Footprint" regulations for light trucks binding in 2011, but the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals returned that rule for reconsideration for, among other things, being "arbitrary and capricious".[2] The most recent revision of CAFE that passed in 2007 no longer exempts light trucks classified as SUVs or passenger vans, unless they exceed 10,000 lb (4,500 kg) GVWR; it applies to pickup trucks and cargo vans up to 8,500 lb (3,900 kg) – as was the case for SUVs. In 1999, over half a million vehicles exceeded the GVWR and so the CAFE standard did not apply.[3] In 2011, the standard will change to include many larger vehicles.[4] The US and Canada have the weakest standards in terms of fleet-average fuel economy rating among first world nations, e.g. 25 mpg in the US, versus 45 mpg in the European Union and higher in Japan (2008).[5] However, the US and Canada have the toughest emissions requirements (in terms of parts per million of pollutants). Some higher-mileage vehicles in Europe would not meet US (and California) emissions standards.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) regulates CAFE standards and the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) measures vehicle fuel efficiency. US Congress specifies that CAFE standards must be set at the "maximum feasible level" given consideration for:

1. technological feasibility;
2. economic practicality;
3. effect of other standards on fuel economy;
4. need of the nation to conserve energy.

Historically, the EPA has encouraged consumers to buy more fuel efficient vehicles, while the NHTSA expressed concerns that smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles may lead to increased traffic fatalities.[6][7] Thus higher fuel efficiency was associated with lower traffic safety, intertwining the issues of fuel economy, road-traffic safety, air pollution, and climate change. In the mid 2000s, increasing safety of smaller cars and the poor safety record of light trucks began to reverse this association.[8]
If the average fuel economy of a manufacturer's annual fleet of car and/or truck production falls below the defined standard, the manufacturer must pay a penalty, currently $5.50 USD per 0.1 mpg under the standard, multiplied by the manufacturer's total production for the U.S. domestic market.

 

Why is Ford's entire parts/accessories network, including FRPP, still stuck in the stone age?!? One should be able to order any of these parts directly from the web site and have them delivered straight his/her home. But NOOOO - gotta GO TO YOUR DEALER and then order it at the counter (while they nanny you over your year & model after you wait in line), and then have the pleasure of GOING BACK to pick up your order (and waiting in line again first).

Also, why is the web site navigation pre-historic?!? Why does it defy all logic? Why is this 2011 kit IMPOSSIBLE to find with just a few navigation clicks? Why is detailed information SO difficult to come by? Does Ford really think we are this stupid?

So frustrated.

 

I feel your pain. Oh and thank your for the clarification on CAFE standards it makes much more sense to me.

 

It may be related to the dealer franchise requirements that basically every state has in place. The dealers can't sell directly.

 

I'd venture to say the tune from FRPP is more conservative (read: less powerful) than what you get from the SCT and tuners.
The advantage is you get a warranty with the FRPP, the drawback is, you'll probably get 20-30% less power than you will from the tuners.


I'm beginning to see most aftermarket exhaust companies making axlebacks instead of catbacks too. Wonder why that is? I know a catback will probably only make a few hp more than an axle back but still, why not open up the flow all the way to the cats for maximum power while still remaining smog legal and gaining the desired sound and losing a bit more weight in the exhaust too?

 

The 2010 power pack for the 4.6 was Approximate increase of 10 peak hp / up to 8 lb-ft over stock according to ford racing. I would expect more with a better breathing engine like the 5.0.

 

Per my dealer. Ford will not be shipping these units until the end of the month at the earliest.

**** they are slow asses

 

i'll probably just buy the air filter, i already have the magnaflow comp series catback and xpipe on the way anyways.

But i agree, theyre as slow as a corolla