Ford CS no longer providing details on orders
#1
Ford CS no longer providing details on orders
I just called and spoke with one of the CSRs and was told they no longer have access to order information beyond "awaiting shipment" and ETA.
So my ETA was 5/14 (looks like it's not gonna make it... signed Captain Obvious.) And all they could tell me was "awaiting shipment." Nothing else. They said, "Call the dealer". I sent my dealer two emails today including a CC to the general sales manager -- no response since 9:30 this morning. NONE.
I kept trying to see if there was ANYTHING beyond "awaiting shipment" she (Ford CSR) could tell me and what I got was "they took that information away from us."
Hmmmmm.....
So my ETA was 5/14 (looks like it's not gonna make it... signed Captain Obvious.) And all they could tell me was "awaiting shipment." Nothing else. They said, "Call the dealer". I sent my dealer two emails today including a CC to the general sales manager -- no response since 9:30 this morning. NONE.
I kept trying to see if there was ANYTHING beyond "awaiting shipment" she (Ford CSR) could tell me and what I got was "they took that information away from us."
Hmmmmm.....
#2
on Monday i called my dealer and my salesman was off for the day and they let me talk to the "inventory manager" (whats what they called him) and he was able to tell me exactly where it was down to the hour and minute of its complete journey from Flat Rock to Phoenix.
Last edited by JoshuaEIB; 5/18/10 at 05:11 PM.
#3
I order all of our store's Mustangs and have for several years. I've ordered Ford vehicles for about 10 years. I can't find out squat about where any of my built 2011 Mustangs are, other than they've been "released from the plant." None are on trains yet and are apparently just parked out in a holding lot at Ford waiting for the okay to ship them our direction. ETA's have come and gone with no cars coming to us. I searched our region (130+ Ford dealers) and only 2 '11 GT's are actually sitting on dealer lots with dozens and dozens simply showing as built but not shipped yet, so we're not alone.
Last edited by Five Oh Brian; 5/18/10 at 05:19 PM.
#4
Really? So it's across the board now? I started noticing this about a week and a half ago when they started saying they could not access information that just the previous week they said "It has no date", as opposed to "We don't have access". I assumed it was just because my order was (probably) ordered as Dealer Stock and they weren't allowed to reveal much about the order in that case.
Sounds now like a DBA got wind of this and went on yon standard database security spree: Strip everyone of read/write access that they do not explicitly need as part of their job. It happens all the time unfortunately. Being in the business myself, these sprees tend to result in me having to jump through hoops in order to get my user rights back so I can actually do my job.
Sounds now like a DBA got wind of this and went on yon standard database security spree: Strip everyone of read/write access that they do not explicitly need as part of their job. It happens all the time unfortunately. Being in the business myself, these sprees tend to result in me having to jump through hoops in order to get my user rights back so I can actually do my job.
Last edited by Lancel; 5/18/10 at 05:19 PM.
#5
So what you are saying is they are basically useless.
I wonder if the are doing this in response to getting so many calls.
All I know is Ford is screwing the pooch on this.
Absolutely no reason for a car to sit five weeks in a parking lot waiting to be delivered, None at all.
I still believe the reason is they want to move the reaming 2010's on dealer's lots so they are holding the 2011's.
In all actually all they are doing is pissing off their customers.
And as soon as I can find someone high enough on the food chain from Ford I will be letting them know how I feel.
I wonder if the are doing this in response to getting so many calls.
All I know is Ford is screwing the pooch on this.
Absolutely no reason for a car to sit five weeks in a parking lot waiting to be delivered, None at all.
I still believe the reason is they want to move the reaming 2010's on dealer's lots so they are holding the 2011's.
In all actually all they are doing is pissing off their customers.
And as soon as I can find someone high enough on the food chain from Ford I will be letting them know how I feel.
#6
I order all of our store's Mustangs and have for several years. I've ordered Ford vehicles for about 10 years. I can't find out squat about where any of my built 2011 Mustangs are, other than they've been "released from the plant." None are on trains yet and are apparently just parked out in a holding lot at Ford waiting for the okay to ship them our direction. ETA's have come and gone with no cars coming to us. I searched our region (130+ Ford dealers) and only 2 '11 GT's are actually sitting on dealer lots with dozens and dozens simply showing as built but not shipped yet, so we're not alone.
the 5 closest dealers to me here in Phoenix have 27 2011 mustangs with 1 GT500, 8 GTs and the rest V6s
Last edited by JoshuaEIB; 5/18/10 at 06:00 PM.
#7
So what you are saying is they are basically useless.
I wonder if the are doing this in response to getting so many calls.
All I know is Ford is screwing the pooch on this.
Absolutely no reason for a car to sit five weeks in a parking lot waiting to be delivered, None at all.
I still believe the reason is they want to move the reaming 2010's on dealer's lots so they are holding the 2011's.
In all actually all they are doing is pissing off their customers.
And as soon as I can find someone high enough on the food chain from Ford I will be letting them know how I feel.
I wonder if the are doing this in response to getting so many calls.
All I know is Ford is screwing the pooch on this.
Absolutely no reason for a car to sit five weeks in a parking lot waiting to be delivered, None at all.
I still believe the reason is they want to move the reaming 2010's on dealer's lots so they are holding the 2011's.
In all actually all they are doing is pissing off their customers.
And as soon as I can find someone high enough on the food chain from Ford I will be letting them know how I feel.
Everyone knew the early production cars were going to end up sitting. It was discussed in multiple threads. The later builds are going to ship quicker than some of the stuff "against the fence".
#9
I don't see any issue with the window sticker site. Maybe you're using the dealer inventory one instead? Or maybe it's just the "access restricted" thing that keeps showing up randomly. If it's the latter, just keep trying, it'll show up.
#10
Everyone knew the early production cars were going to end up sitting. It was discussed in multiple threads. The later builds are going to ship quicker than some of the stuff "against the fence".
Stock orders were the supposed to sit and retail orders were supposed to ship when they cam off the line.
Mine was a retail order built on 4/13 with and original ETA of 4/17, then 4/23 then none at all.
At any point five weeks sitting is not acceptable I don't care when it was built or how it was ordered.
#12
No, it continually tells me it doesn't have access to the site.
#13
Is the the one you are using?
http://www.inventory.fordvehicles.co...XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
(insert your VIN# in place of the X's)
http://www.inventory.fordvehicles.co...XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
(insert your VIN# in place of the X's)
#15
Is the the one you are using?
http://www.inventory.fordvehicles.co...XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
(insert your VIN# in place of the X's)
http://www.inventory.fordvehicles.co...XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
(insert your VIN# in place of the X's)
http://www.pgroup-inc.com/testing/vin.php
Yours with my VIN comes up as the blue letters with no info. Maybe it isn't ready yet. Thanks anyway.
#16
As I recall.
Stock orders were the supposed to sit and retail orders were supposed to ship when they cam off the line.
Mine was a retail order built on 4/13 with and original ETA of 4/17, then 4/23 then none at all.
At any point five weeks sitting is not acceptable I don't care when it was built or how it was ordered.
Stock orders were the supposed to sit and retail orders were supposed to ship when they cam off the line.
Mine was a retail order built on 4/13 with and original ETA of 4/17, then 4/23 then none at all.
At any point five weeks sitting is not acceptable I don't care when it was built or how it was ordered.
Today my ETA changed to 6/9, but it still hasn't shipped. My dealer tells me they had issues with
some 5.0 m/t cars, but who knows if this is the reason. There's a dealer near me that has already
received a GT m/t that had a build date a week after mine.
Last edited by 5.0GT; 5/18/10 at 06:38 PM.
#17
As I recall.
Stock orders were the supposed to sit and retail orders were supposed to ship when they cam off the line.
Mine was a retail order built on 4/13 with and original ETA of 4/17, then 4/23 then none at all.
At any point five weeks sitting is not acceptable I don't care when it was built or how it was ordered.
Stock orders were the supposed to sit and retail orders were supposed to ship when they cam off the line.
Mine was a retail order built on 4/13 with and original ETA of 4/17, then 4/23 then none at all.
At any point five weeks sitting is not acceptable I don't care when it was built or how it was ordered.
Different regions may work differently but my region has worked this way.
#18
What sucks more than anything is that they say, "ask your dealer" and in many cases the dealer doesn't really give a d@mn. In my case, the whole day has passed today and the a$$hat at Cowles Ford never got back to me. Nothing. To make matters worse, he "emails" the inventory manager (it's a long walk across the dealership I guess.) Adding the General Sales Manager to the email had no effect whatsoever.
I don't mind waiting when I know progress is being made. But when nothing is happening, I start thinking about my options. I'm out $500 already (deposit) and I have nothing to show for it. I can't even get an email response from the "Internet" manager. WTF???? What busines do you have running the "Internet" department if you can't even answer a simple email??? I'm so p!ssed right now that I'm ready to just cancel the order and wait for what I want to show up on the lot somewhere else and buy it from another dealer through a dealer transfer. I don't NEED to spend $30k.
Plus my Ford stock went down today, d@mnit.
I don't mind waiting when I know progress is being made. But when nothing is happening, I start thinking about my options. I'm out $500 already (deposit) and I have nothing to show for it. I can't even get an email response from the "Internet" manager. WTF???? What busines do you have running the "Internet" department if you can't even answer a simple email??? I'm so p!ssed right now that I'm ready to just cancel the order and wait for what I want to show up on the lot somewhere else and buy it from another dealer through a dealer transfer. I don't NEED to spend $30k.
Plus my Ford stock went down today, d@mnit.
#19
no, this one
http://www.pgroup-inc.com/testing/vin.php
Yours with my VIN comes up as the blue letters with no info. Maybe it isn't ready yet. Thanks anyway.
http://www.pgroup-inc.com/testing/vin.php
Yours with my VIN comes up as the blue letters with no info. Maybe it isn't ready yet. Thanks anyway.
Use the one posted above.