Final track pack thread
10/24/13, 06:28 AM
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Yes about the capacity and oil cooler i was just proving that at least theres that difference in engines. And 5W50 full synthetic is only recommend for track pack, Boss, and Shelby engines. 5W20 is recommended for all other 5.0s. Says it right on the cap.
10/24/13, 06:33 AM
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When i go home for lunch today Ill peek in my garage and grab the VIN off my Stang. I'll call the dealership around 12:30pm eastern and see what part numbers those miserable people behind the counter give me for my crank and rods. Then we can compare.
10/24/13, 06:52 AM
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The oil cooler is an accessory and doesn't make the engine assembly different. If the engine was truly different then it would require a different part number. And if that was the case then Ford may have to pay to have it emission certified, which makes little sense when the engine itself is changed very little. All I'm saying is the recertification was probably done for all GT 5.0's 2013 thru 2014 and that any additions or changes were done across the board.
10/24/13, 06:54 AM
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Also want to point out that the Factory engine oil weights are recommendations and not requirements. I ran 3 different weights in my LS1 with the only change being fuel economy.
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10/24/13, 07:05 AM
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This thread lit a fire under my a**. Always wanted to know for sure if the speculation is true. Stay tuned...
10/24/13, 07:16 AM
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After talking to one of the engineers at my plant and having one I can proudly say that the track pack are more than. Smoke and mirrors.
And remember there are two performance stages for gt's
Stage 1) brembo brake package
14" BremboŽ Vented Rotors with BremboŽ 4-Piston Calipers
19 x 9.0-inch dark-stainless premium painted aluminum wheels
255/40R19 Pirelli PZero Summer-Only (Coupe) or P255/40ZR19 Goodyear F1 Supercar (Convertible)
Different Springs (131lbs Front / 167lbs Rear)
Different Struts/ Shocks (tuned for spring rates)
GT-500 Rear Lower Control Arms ( Higher Durometer Rubber)
Unique Electronic Stability ControlŽ (ESC) Tuning
Unique Sport Steering Control Setting (EPAS)
Tire Mobility Kit Replaces Spare Tire
Stage 2) boss 302 track pack includes all of the brembo brake package plus
Boss 302 forged rods M-6100-M50BR i know this is the boss 302r piston and rod kit but rod are the same for all four mustang versions track packs, boss 302, 302s, 302r
Boss 302 crank M-6303-M50B
gt pistons and this is resson why 5w-50 is recommend
boss 302 oil cooler, M-6642-MB
boss 302 radiator, M-8005-MBR
boss 302 oil pan,M-6675-M50B
boss 302 axle asembly with 3.73 M-4001-A373
boss 302 torsen diff M-4204-MB
boss 302 diff cooler M-4033-K
boss 302 low expansion brake lines M-2078-MB
lol the track pack is a worth every penny
updated with part numbers
And remember there are two performance stages for gt's
Stage 1) brembo brake package
14" BremboŽ Vented Rotors with BremboŽ 4-Piston Calipers
19 x 9.0-inch dark-stainless premium painted aluminum wheels
255/40R19 Pirelli PZero Summer-Only (Coupe) or P255/40ZR19 Goodyear F1 Supercar (Convertible)
Different Springs (131lbs Front / 167lbs Rear)
Different Struts/ Shocks (tuned for spring rates)
GT-500 Rear Lower Control Arms ( Higher Durometer Rubber)
Unique Electronic Stability ControlŽ (ESC) Tuning
Unique Sport Steering Control Setting (EPAS)
Tire Mobility Kit Replaces Spare Tire
Stage 2) boss 302 track pack includes all of the brembo brake package plus
Boss 302 forged rods M-6100-M50BR i know this is the boss 302r piston and rod kit but rod are the same for all four mustang versions track packs, boss 302, 302s, 302r
Boss 302 crank M-6303-M50B
gt pistons and this is resson why 5w-50 is recommend
boss 302 oil cooler, M-6642-MB
boss 302 radiator, M-8005-MBR
boss 302 oil pan,M-6675-M50B
boss 302 axle asembly with 3.73 M-4001-A373
boss 302 torsen diff M-4204-MB
boss 302 diff cooler M-4033-K
boss 302 low expansion brake lines M-2078-MB
lol the track pack is a worth every penny
updated with part numbers
The OP seems to be correct on both, however, The M-6100-M50BR number for the connecting rods INCLUDES the piston as well. I cannot find just the BOSS 302 connecting rod separate from the piston. Hmmmmmmm....
10/24/13, 07:23 AM
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10/24/13, 07:43 AM
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Sigh... that Ford Parts sight is undoubtedly flawed. I just compared 13 Boss 302 connecting rod and crankshaft parts numbers with a 13 GT part numbers and they were identical. How the hell am I supposed to know now if the parts counter use this same service? Unless all 13 5.0s have Boss 302 CR's and cranks, that site is wrong. :/
10/24/13, 07:47 AM
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"Only a partial ("Base") part number is displayed here. For your convenience, the full part number will be displayed on your final invoice and website transaction records; or, contact your Dealer as required."
The attached screenshot shows that the site lists both the 5.0l and 5.8l pistons under the same "6108" base part #.
And just to really throw a wrench in the works here, when I look up my VIN, I found this:
"Engine Piston Cooling Nozzle"
Part Number: 6K858
10/24/13, 07:53 AM
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That site won't be any help, they only list partial base part #s: "Only a partial ("Base") part number is displayed here. For your convenience, the full part number will be displayed on your final invoice and website transaction records; or, contact your Dealer as required." The attached screenshot shows that the site lists both the 5.0l and 5.8l pistons under the same "6108" base part #. And just to really throw a wrench in the works here, when I look up my VIN, I found this: "Engine Piston Cooling Nozzle" Part Number: 6K858
10/24/13, 08:05 AM
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Dang! That's not helpful. Do you think they do that so you don't get the real P/N and buy it elsewhere..?
That site won't be any help, they only list partial base part #s: "Only a partial ("Base") part number is displayed here. For your convenience, the full part number will be displayed on your final invoice and website transaction records; or, contact your Dealer as required." The attached screenshot shows that the site lists both the 5.0l and 5.8l pistons under the same "6108" base part #. And just to really throw a wrench in the works here, when I look up my VIN, I found this: "Engine Piston Cooling Nozzle" Part Number: 6K858
10/24/13, 09:14 AM
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10/24/13, 10:05 AM
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What people are arguing seems to be, unless the rods are completely the same on every 5.0 mustang, why would Ford add forged rods to the rotating assembly but then slap the stock pistons on. The rods and piston probably come as a single piece before bolted onto the crank, so there would really only be two configurations, Boss and GT. All of the other mods seem logical that they would slap the pan, cooler, rad and what not on after the fact.