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Old 10/13/10, 09:02 AM
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Got me on that one. I ASSumed that you were going along with one of the posters in the linked thread who made the same claim.
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Why not start the conspiracy theory over here? The forum has been pretty dull lately.
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This is all due to Project Sudden Death.

Concerned with the possibility that a Camaro SS with long tubes and a tune could defeat a stock Mustang GT, Ford forged in secret the Ford Mustang GT 5.0+. Under the guise of quality control checks, Ford secretly installed experimental components using loopholes in the law, and a team of elite Engineers tuned each car to perfection. The idea was that these super Mustangs would appear at random, and bring uncertainty to the Chevy crowd when a random stock GT blows them away at the stop light.

Only the very best Mustang GTs were selected for this project. Most were retail. Each were approved by Chuck Norris.
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Originally Posted by RedCandy5.0
Why not start the conspiracy theory over here? The forum has been pretty dull lately.
I think Ford shot JFK.
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Originally Posted by Lancel
This is all due to Project Sudden Death.

Concerned with the possibility that a Camaro SS with long tubes and a tune could defeat a stock Mustang GT, Ford forged in secret the Ford Mustang GT 5.0+. Under the guise of quality control checks, Ford secretly installed experimental components using loopholes in the law, and a team of elite Engineers tuned each car to perfection. The idea was that these super Mustangs would appear at random, and bring uncertainty to the Chevy crowd when a random stock GT blows them away at the stop light.

Only the very best Mustang GTs were selected for this project. Most were retail. Each were approved by Chuck Norris.

Be careful, Chuck Norris might get you for releasing this info.....
Old 10/13/10, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RedCandy5.0
They are testing the DI engines and have put them in random '11's.
Put down the crack pipe
Old 10/13/10, 04:45 PM
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Heard there is a red key for the 5.0 but only select ford employees have it!
yea let's spread that one it's more believable!
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well, if you do the formula for torque = 5252xhp/rpm at the 396.9 peak it comes out to ~310 which is what shows on the graph.

does a dyno sheet of hp vs tq always correctly display the multiplying exactness of corresponding hp and tq @ any given rpm?

still doesn't prove anything but i did the math and it is correct, some great numbers and a strong motor nonetheless.
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Originally Posted by m4reapr
well, if you do the formula for torque = 5252xhp/rpm at the 396.9 peak it comes out to ~310 which is what shows on the graph.

does a dyno sheet of hp vs tq always correctly display the multiplying exactness of corresponding hp and tq @ any given rpm?

still doesn't prove anything but i did the math and it is correct, some great numbers and a strong motor nonetheless.
the 5252 cross doesn't always happen.
this is my dyno sheet.
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Originally Posted by fdjizm
the 5252 cross doesn't always happen.
this is my dyno sheet.
Yes the 5252 cross always happens. All that a dyno can measure is torque. Hp is calculated from torque and time. It is a function of the mathematics that causes them to always meet at 5252rpm.

I would say the dyno graph you have is off because the different scales for hp and tq.

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Originally Posted by Sax1031
Yes the 5252 cross always happens. All that a dyno can measure is torque. Hp is calculated from torque and time. It is a function of the mathematics that causes them to always meet at 5252rpm.
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The guy's claim that it's a factory freak doesn't hold water either. Maybe back in the 70's when cars were not controlled by computers you might find one that had a longer duration cam slipped in it or something. But in order to accomplish the kind of hp numbers he is claiming on that dyno it would have to have a retune of the PCM and that's not going to happen by accident. I tend to agree with the crowd that thinks the dyno numbers are just off for some reason.
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Originally Posted by Sax1031
Yes the 5252 cross always happens. All that a dyno can measure is torque. Hp is calculated from torque and time. It is a function of the mathematics that causes them to always meet at 5252rpm.

I would say the dyno graph you have is off because the different scales for hp and tq.
I mean physically it doesn't always cross I guess it depends on the dyno? I was on a high readin dynojet. but most people use dyno jets so who is right about hp and tq?
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Horsepower is derived from torque as others have stated here. Horsepower and torque always cross at 5250.

The scaling of the dyno sheet shown is why they dont cross on the graph
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